The surge in online shopping, accelerated by COVID-19, has driven up the demand for package deliveries, and that demand continues to rise.

As traditional delivery methods contribute to urban traffic congestion and pollution, cargo bikes - a staple of bike-friendly countries like Denmark and the Netherlands - are becoming a common sight in cities across Europe as a sustainable and efficient alternative to vans.

These larger, typically electric bikes with separate carriers can transport a wide range of loads, from small parcels to larger items, making them ideal for urban deliveries.

In Europe, it is estimated that up to 50 per cent of motorised trips involving the transport of goods in cities could be made by cargo bikes and bicycles, according to a recent study.

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I was so confused with your comment until i remembered there are countries without bike lanes. Still weird to claim them the same size as a van

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this monstrosity, that can fit one backpack and bag of groceries into its cargohold, doesn’t fit in any bike lane, unless that bike lane is as wide as the one for cars. so it needs space in the car lane and is maybe slightly shorter, but that’s not really significant difference.

also do you imagine all bike lanes full of these? yeah, that would solve the congestion problem for sure ;)

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Are you high? I live in Denmark, a country that has a high amount of bikes, and I see tons of those cargo bikes on the bike lanes each day. Parents bringing their kids to daycare, postal workers bringing letters and parcels, landlords bringing all their tools between apartment complexes around the city. Possibilities are endless.

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Are you high?

no. is that a requirement for talking to you?

I see tons of those cargo bikes on the bike lanes each day. Parents bringing their kids to daycare, postal workers bringing letters and parcels, landlords bringing all their tools between apartment complexes around the city.

oh i would like to see your face when all goods that is being transported in vans would suddenly start clogging these bike lanes.

fortunately for everyone it is not going to happen, so you can dream on and fly to tell other pigeons you have won this discussion. πŸ˜‚

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You post a picture of a bike that’s as wide as its handlebar, which is not wider than a regular bike which also has to have enough space to fit its handlebars through and claim it is too wide for a bike lane. Also visible on this picture is a backpack, a grocery bag and a lot of empty space in the cargo-hold and claim it only has space for the backpack and a grocery bag. I feel it is not worth it to argue with you at all since you don’t seem to argue in good faith. Disappointing

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You post a picture of a bike that’s as wide as its handlebar, which is not wider than a regular bike which also has to have enough space to fit its handlebars through and claim it is too wide for a bike lane.

yeah, there are absolutely not wheels on its side which makes it wider, the whole construction doesn’t give it totally different driving characteristics and there is a bike lane to home of every single one of your potential customer, so, you know, these bikes won’t use the width of one car lane, because often times it will be the only option.

and a lot of empty space in the cargo-hold

yeah, lot of empty space to take everything you would fit in your average delivery van. everyone can clearly see that.

you don’t seem to argue in good faith

oh i am? are you sure about that? πŸ˜‚

cargo bike is not efficient alternative to a car, because it is far slower and has much lower capacity than the car, so you will deliver less cargo in longer time. or same cargo in same time using a LOT MORE bikes.

that doesn’t mean and i never said they don’t have its use-cases, but claiming it will solve the traffic congestion is wild exaggeration.

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This is an extra wide one, the picture description is complaining that it takes the whole one-direction bike lane (that’s a third of a road lane).

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you must have really generously designed roads wherever you are πŸ˜‚

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