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A big reason that drove me was that I have a micropenis.

Fake. There are no ā€œreasons to drive someoneā€ other than their internal gender, this sounds like something a cis person someone who thinks being trans is a choice would say.

Edit: For clarity, Iā€™m not speculating on whether or not the OP in the post is trans or cis, Iā€™m saying it doesnā€™t sound like a real story because it sounds inauthentic to the trans experience. A trans person could easily think this up, like anyone can make up a story that is close to their experiences, but since it isnā€™t real it doesnā€™t really pass scrutiny.

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well they could be lying

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Your internal gender didnā€™t just fall out of a coconut tree.

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Wait, are you saying people would lie on 4chan???

But seriously, yeah, people donā€™t seem to realize that people tend to want to pick the path of least resistance. If someone really is trans I have to believe itā€™s because who they are is so at odds with the expectations of society.

Edit: added a qualification because I am not trans

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Exactly. Coming to terms with being trans, when trans people have been seen as nothing but the butt of far too many jokes in damn near all exposure most of us had growing up, is a difficult process rife with cognitive dissonance and defense mechanisms. No one wants to be trans, they just want to be their gender and have to be trans to get that.

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The pain of self repression against the potential pain of self expression

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Thatā€™s such reddit logic. You assume everyone has a perfect understanding of themselves, but people have a lot of different things internally that drive them and theyā€™re not always aware of it. When I was young I was interested in other men, and frankly, quite disgusted by it. Itā€™s the habitat I was raised in and if youā€™d asked me back then, Iā€™d have told you it was because I was a sinner. The real reason as I came to discover was indeed that Iā€™m just gay. It took a lot of steps and discovery to get there. Iā€™m not saying this is real, Iā€™m just pointing out that just because your logic is correct does not mean that this person if they are real has made enough discoveries about themselves to be strictly logical.

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Iā€™m human, and Iā€™m speaking on the issues of self discovery, a progress path we can all share as people learning who they are, so maybe you shouldnā€™t assume Iā€™m stepping where I have no ground.

As for being told something made me gay, I have been. Iā€™ve been told it was sexual assault (that did not occur) when I was young. Iā€™ve been told it was the media and my friends. Iā€™ve had those experiences, and yes, I know that weā€™re born that way now but I did not always have the space to make that discovery. I lived a life where I thought there had to be a reason because I thought it was a negative quality in myself. I hated it because I grew up around others who hated it. Insults behind closed doors, threats of violence and hate, and I agree with you that if they believed it was the reason they discovered their identity, they have more to learn. That does not mean they have learned it.

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Yeah, this seems like the ā€˜jokeā€™ is that only guys with tiny dicks would want to transition.

Which has nothing to do with it

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Idk 4chan has a notoriously toxic and strange trans community. Giving ā€œreasonsā€ is exactly the sort of thing Iā€™d expect of them

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Thatā€™s a good point. I havenā€™t browsed 4chan since way before they had any LGBT community/rep visible on it, I donā€™t know what kind of convoluted views they have. Let me guess, some of them unironcally identify as ā€œagpā€ donā€™t they?

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i have spent and still spend lots of time in this places and yes, they do. they desperately want to be hsts and hate themselves for being agp and not being trutrans enough. lots of reppers too (trans people that know theyā€™re trans but repress it out of self hatred). thereā€™s lots of lore

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Thereā€™s a whole lot of blanchardianism (agp vs hsts). Quite a bit of homophobia, itā€™s actually a lot straighter than youā€™d probably expect. A lot of how they act is surprisingly old school, like back in the day when you werenā€™t allowed to transition unless therapists thought you couldnā€™t live a normal life as your assigned sex old school. And all this with the characteristic 4chan edgy bs. Also theyā€™re anti supportive, like full on terf forum level of critical of trans peopleā€™s appearance.

I havenā€™t been but Iā€™ve learned to pick up the signs by seeing the shit trans people who come from 4chan say.

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two of my trans women friends, when getting their sperm frozen before starting hormones, found out they just have XX chromosomes and never had working sperm in the first place

i think we underestimate how many intersex people there are

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Itā€™s time to just replace the old questionnaires with Skyrim type character creator slide rules.

ā€œPlease define yourself. If you take more than an hour you fail no matter what.ā€

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Yup. My belief is that we are likely to eventually combine the categories of transgender and differences in sexual development (formerly known as intersex) as we discover more about itā€™s biological origins. The vast majority of people have never been karyotyped and have no idea what their chromosomes are.

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