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redpilled is from the matrix, not sure what the relation to estrogen is there. What’s the origin of based?

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They have neither confirmed or denied it being a trans allegory. It depends on how you interpret the response Lilly Wachowski gave in an interview a few years ago:

Continuing on The Matrix, you confirmed a couple years ago that it was a trans allegory —

No, I didn’t.

You didn’t? Tell me more.

Yeah, so that came from an interview I did for Disclosure. They had a bunch of Matrix questions. And the question they asked me was about Switch, who was originally written as a trans character who was male in the real world and female in the matrix. And they took that response and attached the question that everyone now references that it’s a trans allegory. And so it was slightly out of context, but I don’t sit here and put a stink up about it, because it is a trans allegory in that it was written by two closeted trans women. And so all of the things that are in it are super-duper trans. The idea of transformation, even the whole “My name is Neo, Mr. Anderson —” that idea of claiming identity, it’s undeniable.

https://www.them.us/story/lilly-wachowski-mentoring-the-matrix-interview

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So it was an unintentional trans allegory?

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The matrix is a movie made by trans people that very easily functions as a trans allegory. And in that vein, when the movie was made the most common form of estrogen pills were Premarin which are red

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26 points

*glances at IT/comp sci field

yeah checks out

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9 points

Correlation, not causation.

Which kind of field do you think people that wish reality were more malleable would go into? Turns out that programming makes it easy to at least bend mathematics to your will, even if you cannot easily do that to your gender.

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https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/based/

Red pill does definitely come from matrix, but I’m not seeing anywhere stating that they were inspired by estrogen

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Thanks!

I lowkey hate that definition for based, based is definitely not only used by alt-right. Its just like some people pretending pepe is exclusively used by alt-right people.

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7 points

Based take.

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23 points

The matrix is a trans allegory and based is from lil B, aka BasedGod

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based comes from freebasing crack cocaine, lil b the Based God really popularized it’s usage. It’s 80’s hip hop slang.

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The directors of the matrix are both trans, and confirmed that it was an allegory. Trans people are usually faced with the dilemma of repressing their identity (blue pill) or transitioning (red pill).

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to add to the other comments, afaik estrogen pills were usually red when the matrix was made.

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Yeah, the tweet just seems wrong. I just took “based” as “based in reality” and red pill is the matrix choice to see how the world really is.

Based for opinions you agree with, red pilled for opinions “the other side” doesn’t want you to have (the other side can also be imaginary)

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The directors of the Matrix are both trans women. The OP is linking it to estrogen because of that.

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This knowledge made me immediately visualize Keanu Reeves face sticking out between a pair of woman’s legs.

Neo vagina

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Because people assume that only men can transition so they ignore the fact that F->M transitions don’t rely on estrogen? That’s the best I got.

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The creators of the matrix are M to F

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