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please explain this to me

can you stack? ie, if I had a couple of clerics and a paladin, could they buff a teen coming of age, dedicate to a deity, and then marry - into some kind of broken superbuff?

Good question, I’m actually not 100% sure! This seems point to ‘no’ since its the same base spell:

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/basic-rules-2014/spellcasting#CombiningMagicalEffects

yeah hard to find info on edgecases like this. if it’s different ceremonies is it the same spell? sure, probably, but will try to break the dm anyway and see what happens :D

The marriage spell( ceremony) gives you plus 2 ac when next to the person you cast it with.

Sorry to ask, but what is ac?

A dungeons and dragons term for Armour class.

It’s how you determine if an attack hits you.

Say you have an AC of 15 and an attacker tries to hit you they roll a 15 or higher with a 20 sided dice it hits you. (Meets it beats it)

However your opponent also can have boosts to to their attack say a magic weapon adds plus 1 or something so they could roll a 14 plus the 1 to reach 15 thus hitting you. Then they roll damage with another dice dependant on the weapon.

So if the characters are then married they get a plus two to their AC and now have 17 and the 15 misses

you roll a d20 (20-sided dice) to attack someone or something. if the result is equal or higher than the AC (armor class) of whatever you hit, you succeed in hitting it

And just for the next 7 days (ingame). Kinda tough social commentary on marriage.

persons. The spell allows polygamy. Also, no gender restrictions. You can marry all of your party into one big family, RAW. You may need to check the local laws, though.

By the way, the spell does not allow for divorce - it’s strictly “till death do us part”.

It says you can’t benefit from it again unless widowed. Once someone is they can benefit from it as often as they want.

Also, you could still marry someone else and have them benefit from it again.

I once played a series of all-combat one shots, in which we could use the previous day to precast buffs. Every session we used that day to cast ceremony to make the party a polycule, until the DM banned it.

By the way, the spell does not allow for divorce - it’s strictly “till death do us part”.

Which has… consequences

Wouldn’t the entire policule need to be close for them to get the bonus then? That doesn’t sound like the best tactical strategy.

It would generally be better to put them in pair-wise marriages, but when there’s a kaiju on the loose, you can’t wait multiple hours to cast it multiple times.

The spell allows polygamy

Does the +2 stack in that case?

No. Benefits from spells of the same name do not stack.

No, the spell is only cast once, for all partners at the same time. “A creature can benefit from this rite again only if widowed”.

Does it stack though? If n people cast ceremony on a party, does that mean they get +2n AC?

EDIT: I read the rules. And completely read over the latter part of your comment. “A creature can benefit from this rite again only if widowed.” 😢

Ok that brings the questions Can you marry, kill, and merry again for +4 ac

I think you should be able too because that’s like a literal human sacrifice for +4 ac for just 7 days lol

+2n AC

Even if the rules worked that way, it would technically be +2(n-1) AC, since you don’t get any bonus from yourself.

I mean, with resurrection being possible I think divorces would be far less often.

But especially in rich families there would probably be a lot of murdering and resurrecting, just to get out of some forced marriage.

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