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The error there is that it assumes Democrats are entitled to Leftist votes, despite not representing Leftists in any conceivable manner. It’s why we see Muslim-Americans flocking to Jill Stein, for the majority of Muslim-Americans genocide against Palestinians is a hard no entirely.

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Nothing I said implies Democrats are entitled to any votes, just basic statements about options and their outcomes.

Because of the terrible voting system, all those voting for Jill Stein will not affect the outcome. Voting 3rd party is barely better than not voting at all. If they would have otherwise preferred the Democrats, this helps Trump.

I also don’t think voting 3rd party will make Democrats adopt more leftist policies, as that risks losing centrist voters and their big business sponsors they rely on.

It’s a shame, but the best vote is one for Harris. Even when it comes to the Palestinian Genocide. If you want more 3rd party options, try to win a local election first and build momentum from there, don’t start with nothing 6 months before and try to win the federal election from there.

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Nothing I said implies Democrats are entitled to any votes, just basic statements about options and their outcomes.

So then you don’t have any problems with Leftists voting for Claudia De La Crúz, rather than the Dems.

Because of the terrible voting system, all those voting for Jill Stein will not affect the outcome. Voting 3rd party is barely better than not voting at all. If they would have otherwise preferred the Democrats, this helps Trump.

So you do believe the Dems are entitled to Leftist votes for being ever-so-slightly less far-right. Leftists hate the dems and the reps, but now you are saying they help Trump by voting for their interests.

I also don’t think voting 3rd party will make Democrats adopt more leftist policies, as that risks losing centrist voters and their big business sponsors they rely on.

If the Dems lose votes to Leftists, and they wish to regain those votes, they have to move leftward. They won’t ever be Socialist, correct, but they move to where they lose votes.

It’s a shame, but the best vote is one for Harris. Even when it comes to the Palestinian Genocide. If you want more 3rd party options, try to win a local election first and build momentum from there, don’t start with nothing 6 months before and try to win the federal election from there.

No, voting for genocide is not the best for Palestinian Genocide, unless you support the Genocide.

Additionally, the idea that a third party can simply “work their way up” from local elections is absurd. That’s not how the electoral system is oriented in America, any third party that poses a genuine threat to the system would be fiercely combatted by both parties, like how both Republicans and Democrats are collaborating to kick PSL off the ballot in Georgia.

The only path forward is Revolution.

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Leftists hate the dems and the reps, but now you are saying they help Trump by voting for their interests.

Correct. You seem to know all about the voting system, I don’t need to explain to you why that is.

If the Dems lose votes to Leftists, and they wish to regain those votes, they have to move leftward. They won’t ever be Socialist, correct, but they move to where they lose votes.

They will move in the direction they think they can get more votes. The past has shown that even when they lose, they prefer to move “center” rather than left.

No, voting for genocide is not the best for Palestinian Genocide, unless you support the Genocide.

Please explain how voting for your alternative 3rd party candidate, sitting at 0.3% at the polls if I’m not mistaken, will help.

The part of them fiercely fighting any 3rd party was a good point though. Still, the Momentum isn’t there.

Voting 3rd party is not and will not lead to revolution.

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