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13 points

4 months ago

i mean theyve always been openly couping and subjugating the rest of the world. its just been successfull for their own population for most of this time.

as the meme says, its just ran out of space to expand and its now fucking over their own people and allies instead.

what fascists are doing right now in the us is not much different from what they have been doing to south america, africa and east asia for quite some time now.

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JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl

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7 points

4 months ago

Imperialist ≠ fascist

America was often imperialist, only had periods of fascist political movements and has been transitioning for a while.

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0 points

4 months ago

they are not the same thing per se, but imperialism is a fascist strategy. genociding brown people or otherwise oppressing them for money sounds pretty fascistic to me.

its just that its on a worldwide stage now, so the in-group is even more insulated from seeing it.

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JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl

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4 points

4 months ago

Racism is not fascism. Imperialism is not fascism. Nationalism isn’t facism. They are characteristics that sometimes or often lead to facism. Facism has a fairly explicit definition. Things can be a part of each other and overlap each other without being each other.

If I make a snowman, that doesn’t mean that the carrot is a snowman or every snow sphere is a snowman. You can say that when you see me laying out the carrot with 3 balls of snow and a hat, it is leading to a snowman, but it has not always been a snowman.

But yes, facism is a huge danger and on the rise all over the world. Not even just in white western countries either.

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-1 points

4 months ago

when racism, imperialism and nationalism have been a main part of a given country’s identity for decades, yea thats fascism, and its precisely my point here!

don’t forget US segregation laws inspired the nazi treatment of the jews, and you havent changed much in that aspect since then, honestly. i don’t even need to say anything about nationalism, even americans can see it clear as the day. these things don’t lead to fascism, they are the alarm bells.

fascism is rising outside the west because of how tight of a grip you have on us and how you meddle with our electoral system (eg. imposing dictatorships on us). milei is widely and openly supported by western institutions. brazil has seen a lot of meddling for bolsonaro to succeed, also somewhat in the open. i could go on about this one.

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AVincentInSpace@pawb.social

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2 points

4 months ago

What is it with Europeans and making up lies about America to make themselves feel superior?

Don’t forget US segregation laws inspired the Nazi treatment of thr Jews, and you haven’t changed much since then.

It’s been 85 years since WWII. I like to think we’ve made at least some social progress in that time. We’ve stopped segregating, for a start. Affirmative action is the latest thing U.S. conservatives are up in arms about which means we must be doing something right. And say what you will about slavery in America but we did not murder them en masse.

I don’t need to say anything about nationalism. Even Americans see it clear as day.

I beg to differ. Sure, there’s a certain demographic that loves their guns and their trucks and their flags and their homophobia, but they’re far from the majority. Most Americans I’ve met actively despise them. I’d also question whether nationalists (“my country is the best so your country should become part of mine”) as opposed to patriots (“I love my country and want to work to make it better by copying ideas from yours”) have been present in any meaningful capacity before the Cold War. I’m also not at all sure it was present in any meaningful capacity between the end of the Cold War and 2015.

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1 point

4 months ago

i’m not european

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