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Cedric and his wife are also victims. There are typically more than two victims involved in a cult.

The difference is I consider all the members of the cult who have been abused and manipulated into the position they’re in by the leadership to be victims, and you only seem to consider someone a victim if they’ve already started the process of breaking free.

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Yes, like the other women that Masterson raped for example. But I’m sticking to what’s relevant to the topic of the article.

But you would also see the Nazis as victims, so I’m checking out at this point. No reason to keep talking to abuser apologists.

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Not being familiar with each of their religions they are certainly victims of Masterson, they may or may not be victims of scientology. But the members of scientology (specificially not management), are victims of scientology. Cults prey on the weak, you don’t have to too.

Tell me, do you also think women are only victims of their abusers once they leave too or is that criticism reserved only for people who are abused on a larger scale by their entire community?

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Tell me, do you also think women are only victims of their abusers once they leave too or is that criticism reserved only for people who are abused on a larger scale by their entire community?

If they help other women getting raped or harass other victims of the rapist then yes, they’re part of the problem. But it’s a bad faith argument anyway, so thanks for proving my point. Just like you calling Scientology a religion instead of a cult. I think that was a wonderful end for this comment chain.

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