The United States on September 13 said the Russian news outlet RT is taking orders directly from the Kremlin and working with Russian military intelligence to spread disinformation around the world to undermine democracies.
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the United States has gathered new evidence that exposes cooperation between RT and four other subsidiaries of the Rossia Segodnya media group, and it intends to warn other countries of the threat of the disinformation.
In addition to RT, Rossia Segodnya operates RIA Novosti, TV-Novosti, Ruptly, and Sputnik, but the announcement on September 13 focused largely on RT. The outlet, formerly known as Russia Today, has previously been sanctioned for its work to allegedly spread Kremlin propaganda and disinformation.
I’m genuinely confused as to what USA’s point is here. I mean they do this constantly. Are they saying it’s OK when USA does it but bad when anyone else does it?
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90-00552r000201100005-4
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/
I mean it sounds to me like they just don’t want competitors.
*Edit: I just want to add, I think Russia should get out of Ukraine and what they’re doing is awful. But USA complaining about propaganda from other countries is hilariously hypocritical.
Yeah, we’re not new to information warfare, this stuff goes all the way back to the Cold War at least.
The point is that its on, and since its on, it’s a question of do you want to win or lose.
Spanish American war, and some *say the revolutionary war. We all lose with lies, especially when it’s done to a propagandist’s own people (except the billionaires and corporations).
Yeah I agree, I don’t like it when we push propaganda overseas. That does not mean, however, that we shouldn’t pay attention when its being done to us.
Does that person want us to just shut up and take it? Let this happen to us without complaint or countermeasure? It’s a whataboutism, ultimately.
Oh that’s some wild whataboutism. It’s OK for USA to do it because everyone else does. Man that’s some awful way to think.
Yeah, at no point did I say anything was okay. That’s a strawman you concocted.
No you see it’s different when RFA/RFE/RL/VOA, a CIA creation, under the wing of the State Department exist because…
Imo, it’s different. When your own government is heavily invested in your nation’s citizens believing lies to prop up your own nation’s financial elites, individual or corporate, it’s especially egregious.
You’re not supposed to talk about that.
The BBC is, has always been, state apparatus. Parts of its , especially the World Service, was set up to promote Britain around the world. It’s been fantastically successful. The Brits are masters.
For the US, this week they were fed the news that China has raised the retirement age by 1 year, in order to pour scorn on it.
No mention of the fact that the Chinese have on average been retiring 5-7 years earlier than Americans for many years.
That’s why I talk about it, and ask questions. It’s not appreciated, and people dismiss these conversations as not worth talking about. The consequences of not talking about core issues and focusing on identity politics are about to become very real.
ETA; I had to look that up. Retirement age for men is going from 60 to 63 over a period of 15 years. We recently raised our own retirement age to 70, and we still don’t have universal health.
