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I think you’re pissed at the objective fact that 12/433 is fucking nothing and your “good guy with a gun” argument is a pathetic farce, so you’re trying muddy the waters by shifting the argument to a ridiculous, unfounded, unfalsifiable notion that any of the 42 subduers might’ve had literally anything to do with “good guys” having firearms.

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I think you’re pissed at the objective fact that 12/433 is fucking nothing and your “good guy with a gun” argument

There is nothing in what I said that would imply what side of “good guy with a gun” argument I am on and there is nothing in the data that says anything about whether the 42 people had a gun.

My point is this is terrible and confusing representation of the data, as is often the case in any “data is beautiful” community.

But keep kicking around mad that the version that supports your narrative is not the only possible one :D

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Yeah, so terrible and confusing that they didn’t mention guns in branches that don’t have anything to do with guns outside of a gun fetishist’s fanfiction.

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So, I can imagine someone with a gun menacing the attacker at gunpoint and forcing them to surrender. No shots fired.

But the data doesn’t include this for bystanders. Maybe that’s because it doesn’t happen in real life, or maybe they muddied the watters. We can’t know because we can’t see the data they used to make this graphic.

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branches that don’t have anything to do with guns

Branch that doesn’t involve shooting the attacker.

Keep trying. You will not get there, but at least you tried.

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Thank you for standing up to the slavering morons around here about bad statistical graphics.

All I’m getting out of this is that police are, in fact less than 50% effective, so we’d better plan on dealing with it ourselves.

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