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2 points

4 months ago

China most definitely has billionaires in cahoots with the government

Imperialism is when billionaires. The more billionaires you have the imperialister it is

Also https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/

I’ve had two discussions with users about the Uyghur camps which were not able to address the base of my concerns.

Sounds like you were concern trolling, because the burden of proof is on the accuser

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Linkerbaan@lemmy.world

-3 points

4 months ago

Your statement about China not having a financialist capital class seemed slightly out of touch so I provided you with examples of some Chinese capital class. Communism is when not billionaires. The more Billionaires you have to less communism it is.

As for the imperialism I only hear the same argument as for Western imperialism: someone drew lines on a map 200 years ago and it said Xinjiang and Tibet were part of China. So despite them speaking a different language it’s now 100% ours for rizzle.

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2 points

4 months ago

Read more theory otherwise you sound like a kid like you do now.

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Linkerbaan@lemmy.world

0 points

4 months ago

I read a bit of the link and it was mostly mid mumbling that mentioned faults of China and then moved on as if addressing them solves them.

Then it proceeded to misdiagnose what greed is and pretend capitalism is a system designed around greed instead of greed being innate to humans.

Then I stopped because it doesn’t answer any of the questions.

I’m not saying everything China does is bad, certainly to grow as superpower when the West tries to overthrow all competition is massive achievement. But people are all too willing to deny faults of China.

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2 points

4 months ago

Your statement about China not having a financialist capital class seemed slightly out of touch so I provided you with examples of some Chinese capital class

I seems you have no clue what the difference between an industrial capitalist and a finacial capitalist is, because you provided not a example of finacial capitalists existing. You just showed me an example of a industrial/realestate capitalist eating shit. Not so much in cahoots after all then ,right? Not like the CPC declared the “3 red lines” in order to mitigate the bubble forming, not like there’s a 95% homeowner ship rate in china already and it’s just speculators eating shit, not like Asianometry is a very informed lib viewing the deliberate crash from a liberal perspective, right?

China’s banks are nationalized. When was theast time you heare about Jack Ma, who wanted to ascend to be a financial capitalist by circumventing finance laws with ANT pay?

Communism is when not billionaires. The more Billionaires you have to less communism it is.

See, what the CPC is doing is not communism. It’s market socialism, or SWCC to be more accurate, which is not without it’s contradictions. Communism cannot exist when Capitalism and Imperialism exists.

When you write stuff like:

instead of greed being innate to humans

Muh human nature

As for the imperialism I only hear the same argument as for Western imperialism: someone drew lines on a map 200 years ago

I know for a fact you haven’t read theory and don’t want to be talking to you until you haven’t done your homework.

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Linkerbaan@lemmy.world

-2 points

4 months ago

Arguing on semantics is a liberals game. Anyway the last user claimed China was definitely not cracking down on Xinjiang so I linked him this damning compilation.

Haven’t heard from him since.

Unless you’re going to claim cultural Genocide is fine when China does it because they call their imperialism differently I don’t really care for the argument.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mosques_in_China

1 point

4 months ago

Semantics are important with words like “imperialism”, “capitalism” and other isms.

Xinjiang so I linked him this damning compilation.

Xinjiang has 1 mosque per ~500 Muslims and one of the highest densities with 25k mosques total

Your (western) article makes an “analysis of 2,312 mosques once featuring Islamic architecture shows that three-quarters have been modified or destroyed since 2018.”

Which 1) is not that many compares to the total amount. 2) Has an interest in focussing on “modified” (i.e. renovated) and destroyed ones to make the 3/4 figure 3) apparently has access to that data, but refuses to list the total amount of destroyed ones.

Also cultural genocide is when Uyghur is an official languages and also used publicly everywhere. Cultural genocide is when you can freely practice your religion everywhere. Cultural genocide is when all Muslim majority visited the region and had no complaints. Apparently genocide on Muslims is not happening in Palestine (said by the same voices that do say it’s happening in China)

You might want to consider the context a bit (also with western sources): https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

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