I would say the very second passenger car traffic exceeds the environmental impact of the cruise industry. How much environmental damage does Carnival Cruise Lines do compared to all the highway traffic in the United States? We’re talking an entirely recreational industry here, if all cruise ships disappeared tomorrow society would keep right on rolling. Cases of norovirus would decrease.
You want passenger rail to increase in the United States? Great. Let’s start with Amtrak’s website. I live within walking distance of an active Amtrak station. Several times in my life I’ve had a want or need to travel cross country, and it occurred to me “I wonder if I could take the train.” The answer, inevitably, is no. I go to Amtrak’s website, pick a starting station and a destination station, and usually they outright can’t plan a trip between those locations. Not even capable of saying things like “take the Silver Star to Grand Central station in New York, wait 8 hours, then take the Lake Shore Limited to Chicago.” It proved to be less work on my part to drive, fly as a passenger on an airliner, and fly as pilot of a Cessna, than take the train in this country.
And what part of that is my personal fault?
Oh, well, if others are worse then I guess you’re not doing anything wrong.
The same point where you are detained for kidnapping for forcing the other cars to stop in traffic.
Next time there is a jam, just throw everyone in jail for kidnapping each other.
The difference between a traffic jam and protestors blocking traffic is intent.
I take it none of you passed high school civics?
If you know there’s going to be a traffic jam at 5PM on the I-Fuckit, aggravated by your presence, is that not intent or, at the very least, gross negligence?
The moment the protestors barricade your doors and physically prevent you from leaving your vehicle.
Nothing’s stopping a driver from getting out of their car and walking away. So never.
No. It would be robbery if they stole your car. If you had to leave your vehicle and walk away, and your vehicle was subsequently towed, you might be able to sue them in court for the cost of towing and impounding your vehicle and maybe something for your time. But never would it arise to kidnapping or theft as a criminal matter. You are not your vehicle. It is only kidnapping or false imprisonment if you, your own physical person, are prohibited from leaving.
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