the only one denying responsibility here is you.
Oh good. Then there’s no problem. My output is infinitesimal on a global scale.
I was worried for a minute, but I guess since everyone else is taking this problem seriously, it should be fixed shortly.
The important thing is to try
An individual endlessly forced to attempt an exhausting futile endeavor is a punishment in Greek Mythology.
But on Lemmy, its supposed to be a panacea.
My output is infinitesimal on a global scale.
Even the single most offending business can claim only a small percent of the total damage. Does that absolve them? We both agree the answer is “no.”
I was worried for a minute, but I guess since everyone else is taking this problem seriously, it should be fixed shortly.
None of this was said nor implied. I’ve been talking about how we are all responsible, and you’ve been trying to justify taking no individual steps to make things better.
An individual endlessly forced to attempt an exhausting futile endeavor is a punishment in Greek Mythology.
I disagree that it’s futile, as I’ve already mentioned that the more people do it, the more businesses will cater to that. And if every individual makes the change, it would be massive.
But on Lemmy, its supposed to be a panacea.
Your argument is failing which is why you have to put words into my mouth. I think you’re beginning to realize this. I just hope it turns into actually taking responsibility for what you can control: your own actions.
Even the single most offending business can claim only a small percent of the total damage.
When industries are cartelized, that’s less true. There’s a real knock-on effect between firms, such that a procedure change in a single heavyweight forces others to follow suite or divide off into niches. Classic example of this was Exxon’s adoption of Oracle database suite. Once they got on board, all their clients and partners were dragged along for the ride.
Another great example is the provisions of the Inflation Reduction Act that throw billions into grid overhauls that prioritize green energy. Wind/Solar dipping under coal has set off a massive construction frenzy, particularly in Sunbelt states like Arizona and Texas. You can claim no single coal plant is responsible for climate change. But when a MWh of power from wind gets under coal, it doesn’t matter, because every coal plant sees a reduction in business and every wind farm sees a surge in consumption.
All that to say, these aren’t individual problems. They are systemic. And they can only be solved systemically.
I’ve been talking about how we are all responsible
That’s simply not true. If everyone on my block were to throw themselves off their roofs tomorrow and reduce consumption to a flat zero, climate change would continue apace. If the senior staff at these 60 corporate plants did the same, and there was suddenly a vacuum of leadership/lobbying going into the opposition to climate change reforms, the story would be entirely different.
We are not all responsible. Not in a privatized for-profit corporate hierarchy of an economy.
Your argument is failing
Your fallacy is the Tinkerbell Effect
Your fallacy is the Tinkerbell Effect
Despite me very explicitly and clearly saying that companies have the lions share of the responsibility, you claimed my argument, that we all have some responsibility and we should change our individual actions, was claiming it’s a “panacea.” You were the one who made up something that wasn’t there.
I also know that my local shop is moving into a bigger space and has talked about possibly even opening a second shop. I’ve also turned friends into their products and they still shop there. Just just like companies can spread their influence by changing, so can individuals. So your claim that it’s “infinitesimal” starts to fall apart if you actually apply your own logic to yourself.
You need to convince yourself that your actions have no affect, because it’s the only way to say you care while doing nothing. It’s how you cope with that cognitive dissonance: pretend it isn’t there.
You’re really recognizing the fault of your own position here, it’s just the opposite of the Tinkerbell effect, where if you pretend it isn’t there, it’s not.
