Incase anyone tells you that lemmy.ml is not a tankie instance.
You would have zero way of knowing what his exact situation was and where he could go, he had literal minutes to make his plan,
Minutes to make his plan.
Are you going to keep to this? Because I can give you quite the outline of Snowden’s actions leading up to him fleeing the country, and ‘minutes to make a plan’ is not included in that.
and I have no fucking clue what point you think you’re making by comparing a country he literally has no choice but to stay in, that everyone “falls out of windows” in all the time, to a country he could definitely leave, maybe make better, and had an idea how to escape from.
“He did something that was beneficial. This does not make him a good person. It does not make him brave. It certainly doesn’t make him wise. He’s a cowardly dipshit who is now supporting a fascist regime.”
Also man, your tone is incredibly condescending. And since you’re a mod, I’m just waiting for you to ban me everywhere you can.
I don’t ban people for disagreeing with me. And certainly not in any place they hadn’t broken the rules in.
You’re so far only convinced me that A) you think a lot about how much you despise Snowden, someone I’ve considered a hero for a decade
Yep, I reconsidered the issue in-depth after the Ukrainian War began.
B) you don’t respect me at all.
It’s the internet, man. You’re words on a screen putting forth shitty arguments. Tomorrow you may be putting forward good arguments; tomorrow you may be putting forth bad arguments. I take things as they come.
You’re words on a screen
Yeah, it is quite clear that is how you’re treating this. Text, conveying awful evil ideas from a faceless enemy without feelings or a soul. I gotta go.
Yeah, I’m not here to discuss politics from the point of “How does the other person feel about my criticism of a third party whose behavior influences more people than you or I will ever even speak to?” but “Is this correct or incorrect? Is this moral or immoral? Is this a valid argument, or invalid?”
I honestly used to believe humanity had a chance. Between the trump era and seeing people behave poorly all the time, I just don’t have that hope anymore. I don’t know how to explain it, and it doesn’t seem like you’d care in any case, but this conversation is a not small part of increasing that hopelessness. For a year I’ve been reading your posts and comments and largely agreeing and feeling a sense of alignment. But the second there isn’t agreement, boom, a feeling of instant enemies.
You aren’t here to care about feelings… alright. Generally though I think society benefits if more people think humanity has a shot.
