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I think it’s stupid to say they have always been fascist, but people definitely don’t grasp what fascism is, they think it’s people marching in nice grey uniforms on the street and concentration camps out in the open and if you try to call anything that’s not that they call you stupid and overreacting

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“All men are created equal”

is slave state

Always has been

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Would you say it might apply to an openly genocidal state conquering its neighbors?

How about when that state also has up to 30% of its population by region in racial chattel slavery?

How about when the genocide is done and the slavery ended but it still enforces apartheid politics?

How about when it overthrows the government of any neighbor it disagrees with?

Invades other countries and kills millions?

But, hey. It’s not technically fascism as long it’s white men voting to do that, right? They usually weren’t even Italian! It’s stupid to call it fascism when it doesn’t come from Rome!

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Those are definitely trait you’d expect from fascism, but they are neither necessary nor sufficient to be fascist. Fascism is not just doing a bad thing. It’s a very specific set of traits, which the US does not meet —in my opinion and any other informed opinion that I’ve seen.

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Doing evil things =/= fascism.

Fascists do evil things, so do others.

I think this is the best video on fascism https://youtu.be/5Luu1Beb8ng?si=Bfyx8qpyz9EbuFQX

I don’t disagree that fascism has been part of the US always but it has been everywhere, it never went away, but it really came out with trump whether you think Trump is a fascist or just a useful idiot/ opportunist capitalist is up to debate imo. But his following has a large group of fascists.

They worship trump to an almost religious degree, they use fascist symbolism, they are predominantly white and believe they have a right to rule and be on top just because, they accept minorities and some lgb (not T) people as long as it lets them get into the position of power, then turn on them ( as seen by the many leopardsatemyface posts about gay republicans)

Fascism is a specific political ideology that has some telltale signs not just a collection if evil deeds, what’s the point of using words if we bend the definition to whatever we want to say?

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Man, at this point the word has no more meaning. The definition has been coopted and broadened so much that anything bad is a fash

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Lol, brainlet Lenin take.

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Best not to use to academic language when dealing with those that Academia has failed so thoroughly. Or the ones who already know and don’t care cuz they got enough of a kickback from kicking down.

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That’s already happening. We just do it in otuer countries. Genocide denial included.vThis wasn’t Fascist enough for the libs.

House of Representatives Votes 269-144 to Ban State Department from Citing Gaza Death Toll

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I am pretty sure England allowed the Anschluss and for Germany to take parts of Czechoslovakia before WW2, because they thought that would be enough for Hitler, so does that mean England was fascist?

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so does that mean England was fascist?

The biggest imperial and colonial power of perhaps all of history? yeah probably

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