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I hate the idea that people throw around that Israel has any influence over the US. They don’t.

Counterpoint: AIPAC

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The puppet made an advocacy lobby. A way to tell it’s imperial master what it wants. This isn’t influence, this is communication.

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Lobbyists - famous for having no influence.

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Recheck my edit on original post for an explanation of how I’m using the word influence.

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