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15 points

3 months ago

British Prime Minister Chamberlain shaking hands with Hitler after selling out the Czechs.

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mako@lemmy.today

8 points

3 months ago

Anyone: Russia or China did something fucked up.

lemmy.ml: BUT WHAT ABOUT…!

These people are so black and white, it completely boggles the mind. They live in “X is bad so Y must be good!”

X and Y are both completely fucked and if you can’t see that, then so are you.

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-1 points

3 months ago

You’re making an awful lot of assumptions about what I believe when I haven’t said a word of that.

What is it with you people and just making up what people believe, whole cloth? Guess it’s just easier to argue against someone who’s made of straw and only exists in your head.

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mako@lemmy.today

9 points

3 months ago

You’re right, assumptions were made, though your lack of context for posting that picture definitely lends itself to my narrative. Not refuting anything I said also doesn’t help to destraw yourself.

Please, take this opportunity to clear the air and let us all know that you’re aware of how damaging Chinese and Russian policies are for their people, just like Western capitalism for its people.

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3 points

3 months ago

Please, take this opportunity to clear the air and let us all know that you’re aware of how damaging Chinese and Russian policies are for their people, just like Western capitalism for it’s people.

Russia is a reactionary, capitalist state with policies damaging to their people, especially LGBT people but also generally towards everyone.

I could understand why you might think that I like the USSR based on the context of the image I shared, but the Russian Federation destroyed and replaced the USSR with a capitalist government, so I can’t say I follow your reasoning about my supposed beliefs at all.

As for China, how on earth is that even relevant to the conversation? I have a more sympathetic view of China than of Russia, on account of the whole, “Responsible for three quarters of all poverty reduction in the past 40 years” thing, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t have flaws, like anywhere does. It wasn’t that long ago that the majority of Americans held a favorable view of China, before the whole propaganda blitz we’re in now started.

I’m sure that by complying with your request (irrelevant as it was), you’re going to back off from your false, imagined claims about me and not just use this opportunity to latch onto something I said and jump down my throat again, right? Because you’re definitely acting in good faith.

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mako@lemmy.today

0 points

3 months ago

Here’s a couple observations: you attempted to discredit what I said by invoking the straw man argument while asserting what “you people” all do in the same breath.

You also ended your last comment by offering the false dichotomy that my 2 options are “backing off my false claims” or not acting in good faith.

Third, for how active you are in commenting and debating, it’s disingenuous at best to pretend that my assumptions were random words strung together. If you comment in lemmy.ml on any of the omnipresent Chinese or Russian-centric posts with anything other than adoration, you’re banned… Criticism isn’t allowed in any of the major communities there and you’re obviously aware of that.

You’re not the paragon of fairness, honesty, or logic that you’d like us to believe.

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-4 points

3 months ago

If you comment in lemmy.ml on any of the omnipresent Chinese or Russian-centric posts with anything other than adoration, you’re banned… Criticism isn’t allowed in any of the major communities there and you’re obviously aware of that.

That’s demonstrably false, and you’re obviously aware of that.

If all you’re interested in is strawmanning, ad hominem, and repeated lies, then I’m not interested in continuing this conversation.

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2 points

3 months ago

I’m not part of the conversation, but I wanted to let you know that I appreciated your response. I believe that the USSR was very fucked too, hence the coup, but I appreciate your candid and honest reply.

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2 points

3 months ago

Right, I mean, the whole idea of someone who just blindly agrees with anything that has ever done by anyone waving a red flag is kind of silly. If the USSR didn’t have flaws, then it wouldn’t have collapsed. People would rather just pretend communists are all like that because they don’t want to engage with what we actually believe, which is generally more nuanced.

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