Comment by Alsephina@lemmy.ml on The Greatest Innovations of the Soviet Union

(To borrow from Cowbee’s comment a bit) Wealth inequality was far lower in the Soviet Union’s socialist system than the Tsarist system before it, the capitalist system after it was overthrown (obviously), and than western capitalist countries in the same time period.

Source

Human Rights In The Soviet Union, Including Comparisons With The U.S.A. by Albert Szymanski
Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti

No wonder then that 90% of the Soviet population voted to stay in the Union, but of course that didn’t stop its overthrow because capitalists had already taken it over by then.

A poll in 2009

As time passes though, the capitalist propaganda that kids in these places grow up with will probably start to outweigh the lived experiences of worsened living conditions after capitalists overthrew the USSR that their parents had. It’s sad.

No matter how much time passes, I doubt the Capitalists can erase the memory of roughly 7 million excess deaths due to Shock Doctrine after dissolving the USSR.

can erase the memory of roughly 7 million excess deaths due to Shock Doctrine after dissolving the USSR

Why not? Talk to the teenagers in Russia. I doubt many would be even aware. Nor that they’d care, claiming “well it was worse under sovok”

not to refute your point, but without n values per country this poll is meaningless:

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2009/11/02/end-of-communism-cheered-but-now-with-more-reservations/

The closest thing I’ve seen to an n value is 14760, which seems good, but no idea what the distribution of votes is, most of those might come from Bulgaria as far as we know

Funny you focus on whatever this is and conveniently ignore the millions murdered by the state.

I’m here because my family escaped that shit.

Funny you focus on whatever this is

Is it a bad thing to highlight that wealth disparity dramatically shrank in the USSR and dramatically increased in the Russian Federation?

and conveniently ignore the millions murdered by the state.

Are you referring to Nazi sympathizers, the Tsarist White Army, or Capitalist insurgents?

What “other tens of millions?” Where are you getting those numbers, the Black Book of Communism, which was debunked by its own writers?

Must be easy to be a right-winger, you can conjure numbers out of thin-air and positions on vibes, rather than actually look at history in any capacity.

Doesn’t seem like you care about any facts of history, lol, to the point where you call Nazis “innocents” and pretend the USSR had famines during the Space Race.

Read Blackshirts and Reds. Or, don’t, just remain a clueless right-winger rewriting history as the US Empire crumbles around you.

Wealth disparity is a hilarious metric to use when everyone was poor.

Incorrect. On top of having free healthcare, education, and lower retirement ages than the US, GDP rose rapidly.

GDP has something to do with personal wealth?!.. hmmm

GDP Per Capita.

Wealth disparity lowered, GDP Per Capita raised. Where do you think this went?

Won’t somebody please think of the Nazis and gusanos!

Mine too, it’s hard to call the dissolution of USSR illegal when it was initiated by people escaping Soviet bloc countries in droves.

Exactly. This is probably a moron who read about USSR on facebook. Those were horrible times full of oppression and corruption. I was raised in one of the sattelite countries and no. Those were bad very bad times unless you were a child of a small corrupted russian boot licker.

Facebook, classic bastion of Communism.

Did you ignore the linked study on wealth disparity and the 2 history books?

Who needs new, dissonant information when we’ve got common sense?

Liberals try to fucking read challenge (impossible)

Neat vids from youtube or wherever. Rules later

The Greatest Innovations of the Soviet Union(youtu.be)

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