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It is impossible for my turnip soup business to make money if you enforce laws that make it illegal for me to steal turnips.

Paying for turnips is not realistic.

You bureaucrats don’t understand food.

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More like I can’t sell photographs of turnips if I have to pay to take photos of them. Why should we have to pay to take photos of turnips when we never have had to ever?

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Not at all. They are using copyrighted material to make a product that they are selling and profiting from. Profiting off of someone else’s work is not the same as making a copy of it for personal use.

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Except they’re digging the turnips out of someone else’s garden.

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They’re someone else’s turnips though, not yours. If you’re going to make money selling pictures of them, don’t you think the person who grew the turnips deserves a fair share of the proceeds?

Or from another perspective, if the person who grew them requests payment in return for you to take pictures of them, and you don’t want to pay it – why don’t you go find other turnips? Or grow your own?

These LLMs are an end product of capitalism – exploiting other people’s labor and creativity without paying them so you can get rich.

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To answer your first question: No I don’t think the person growing turnip that I can see from the street should be compensated for the photograph I sell of that turnip. What next ? should we also compensate his parents for teaching him how to grow turnip, or his grandparent for teaching his parents ? What about the architect who designed the house next door that you can see in the background of the photograph ? Should the maker of the camera be compensated every time I take a picture ?..

Anyway back to AI:

I think though that the AI model resulting from freely accessing all images should also be fully open source and that anyone should be allowed to locally execute it on their own hardware. Let’s use this to push for the end of Intellectual property.

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