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“Meta does not use your phone’s microphone for ads and we’ve been public about this for years,” the statement read.

Meanwhile:

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Not defending Facebook, but if you record a video with sound, then the FB app has to have permission to record your audio.

That said, delete Facebook. Fuck Zuck.

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if you record a video with sound, then the FB app has to have permission to record your audio.

I can’t tell if you’re trying to explain how it currently works (which I know very well, thanks) or asserting that the current behavior is necessary in order to record with sound.

It really doesn’t have to be as it is. The OS can provide a record-video API, complete with a user-controlled kill switch and an activity indicator, and the app can call it. The app doesn’t need direct access to the microphone to allow the user to create a file with sound.

Edit to clarify: I’m not saying that the “permission” doesn’t work as advertised. I’m saying that recording an audio file doesn’t have to require a permission system as coarse and disempowering to users as it is today. I guess the people clicking the downvote button misunderstood.

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Pretty sure that qualifies for that permission.

But the whole point of doing so is to use it in the app, and you for sure can’t do that without the permission.

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I downvoted because of the snark in first paragraph.

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That is not the same thing as listening in the background.

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Nobody said it was the same thing as listening in the background. It’s still relevant and important.

I trust that most adults understand the implications of an exploitable permission and a strong incentive to abuse it, as well as the track record of corporate denials.

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Using the permission to record audio triggers an on-screen indicator that the mic is recording. Someone would probably notice it on 24/7 recording. Someone would have also by now found the constant stream of network traffic to send the audio to be analyzed, because they also aren’t doing that on-device.

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Meta said it does not, but what about 3rd parties…

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What a horrifying list of data collection. Fuck all that hahaha

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Why wouldn’t you want to share your fitness data with the company that will sell it to the company setting your health “insurance” premiums? </s>

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