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Please tell me you have a reliable source on the number of Tibetans in Tibet that want independence from China.

Let’s then compare that to Catalonians in Spain, or to Quebec nationals in Canada, or to indigenous colonies in the US

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  1. I said “the world” and not “China.”

  2. None of those places were conquered within living memory, the thing you said China doesn’t do.

(Believe it or not, arguing that they like being conquered and colonized doesn’t mean they weren’t conquered and colonized.)

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(Believe it or not, arguing that they like being conquered and colonized doesn’t mean they weren’t conquered and colonized.)

“The right of self-determination is only relevant when it’s bad for China :(”

Tibet was a literal feudal state with absolutist power, where Tibetans worked the land as serfs for their feudal lords as they were legally tied to it. The liberation army liberated the Tibetans from their feudal yoke in a non-colonial way (we can get into the details if you want to).

None of those places were conquered within living memory, the thing you said China doesn’t do.

Ok, hopefully we’ll stop hearing the imperialists cry about how much better Tibet was under feudalism in 20 years, when it’s no longer living memory.

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Again- this was about you claiming China is not expansionist.

You can claim the expansionism was justified, you can claim that the people wanted it, you can claim it’s unfair because of “the imperialists,” you can claim any of those things or other things.

What you cannot truthfully claim is that a country which literally expanded its borders by a massive amount in living memory by the same government that is currently in power is not expansionist.

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