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Because China has never had expansionist ambitions. I know that goes against hundreds of years of Yellow Peril tropes in Western media, but it’s true.

China’s history has been a cycle of ethnic Han states uniting into a larger ethnic Han state, and then splitting, and then re-uniting. As Han populations spread, those areas would eventually be integrated into China, but China had very little interest in annexing non-Han areas.

Before anyone asks, Tibet was unified with China when both areas were conquered by the Mongols. It wasn’t an act of Chinese expansion.

And Vietnam was considered to be a Han area. The literate classes of Vietnam spoke Chinese and were culturally Chinese before being incorporated into the Han dynasty.

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Because China has never had expansionist ambitions. I know that goes against hundreds of years of Yellow Peril tropes in Western media, but it’s true.

That’s the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard in my life.

No, of course they don’t have expansionist ambitions, because they consider a large part of Siberia theirs, including Primosky Krai which was ceded by the Qing after the opium wars, they lost Korea and Taiwan in the Sino-Japenese War.

They want what every country that once owned 1 speck of sand beyond their borders 1000 years ago wants: “Repayment of past injustices!”, just like Israelis want Israel and Jerusalem, Russia wants Ukraine and the other republics, Andalusia wants independence.

Sometime, long ago, their country was great, and they deserve it back, because the moment it had the largest borders was the right moment, and everything since then is an insult to their greatness.

Moscow to this day still considers itself heir to Rome, as stupid as that sounds, the greatest empire in history devolving into a bunch of drunk gangsters and pimps.

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That’s the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard in my life.

But it’s true.

No, of course they don’t have expansionist ambitions, because they consider a large part of Siberia theirs, including Primosky Krai which was ceded by the Qing

This article was literally about China not wanting Primosky Krai, and the president of Taiwan asking why.

You didn’t read the article, did you?

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No, they want it back, they’ve had discussions during the cold war and since.

He’s saying they’re not doing anything about it now:

Complete restoration of China’s losses in that time is a driving narrative of the CCP, and today is largely focused on Taiwan.

However, Lai, who was elected president in January, noted that China also lost land to Russia during that period but was not making any effort to take it back

He’s saying Taiwan is just a noisy point to distract the domestic hardliners, which it is.

Russia is literally vulnerable now and 100% dependent on China, they could ask for it back if they wanted, but what China wants is the political issue.

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They want what every country that once owned 1 speck of sand beyond their borders 1000 years ago wants: “Repayment of past injustices!”

No, they want the unification of ethnic Han states, which is why they want Taiwan and not Vladivostok.

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Yeah well some of those “Han states” don’t consider themselves “Han states” anymore.

So I guess they need to do something censored to themselves.

Or maybe India needs to unify all lands descended from Hinduism, including Buddhism in the east?

Everybody has an argument to do some moronic thing they want to do, because things will be the way they’re supposed to be.

They should let Tibet and Xinjiang go, those aren’t Han people, they shouldn’t be a part of the great Han motherland.

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