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The difference here is that ukraine puts its military at the edge of cities in fortified defensive lines so the ukrainian military can shield ukrainian civilians from danger, where as palestine puts it’s military in bunkers hidden in the middle of cities so the palestinian civilians can shield the palestinian military from danger.

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I hope that, someday, you realize how wrong you are. I hope you don’t just shuffle away from your prior skewed views and act like you weren’t an abhorrent monster. I hope you own up to who you were and carry that shame with you to better yourself as a human being.

Cheers.

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The difference here is that ukraine puts its military at the edge of cities in fortified defensive lines so the ukrainian military can shield ukrainian civilians from danger, where as palestine puts it’s military in bunkers hidden in the middle of cities so the palestinian civilians can shield the palestinian military from danger.

Palestine does not have an army, Hamas are just a group of people together that lost their home, land, families and friends by massacres done by Israel Occupation Forces.

  1. Does Palestine have an army?

so the palestinian civilians can shield the palestinian military from danger.

This claim always gets used but never do I see the opposite claim while that’s been proven. Israel uses Palestinian people as shields too, heck they even shot their own Israeli citizens death.

  1. The Israeli army’s use of Palestinian civilians as human shields has been documented on a large scale
  2. Israel’s human shields: Its own people
  3. This is how Israel uses its own people as human shields
  4. Israeli troops killed hostages, mistaking their cries for help as ambush -military
  5. 3 hostages killed by Israeli soldier in Gaza were waving a white flag, Israel says
  6. How an Israeli raid freed 4 hostages and killed at least 274 Palestinians in Gaza

Also, Israel has done so many atrocities, it’s genuinely impossible to link them all here;

  1. Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians in shadowy detention center.

  2. Israeli forces’ systemic denial of fair trial rights to Palestinian child prisoners amounts to arbitrary detention

  3. Israel’s PM Netanyahu ‘proud’ of preventing establishment of a Palestinian state

  4. Far-right minister says nuking Gaza an option, PM suspends him from cabinet meetings

  5. Israel Defense Minister Calls Palestinians ‘Human Animals’ Amid Israeli Aggression

  6. Israeli politician: Palestinian prisoners should be allowed to be raped

  7. Born Without Civil Rights; Israel’s Use of Draconian Military Orders to Repress Palestinians in the West Bank

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Odd how every single incident you listed takes place after the 1929 Hebron massacre, when Arabs randomly killed jews for no reason.

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It is odd how you pick out one particular thing and base your entire argument on that but ignore the 14 links that I have given you. You also ignore the mere fact that a European country (Nazi Germany at the time) killed 6 million Jewish people purely out of hatred and that drove the people make Israeli state by Britain giving away land that wasn’t theirs to give away.

You seem to really, really try to put the entire blame on the Arabian people.

As I’m not at home right now, I can’t link sources and comment much but I will. If I think you’re worth my time because - you seem not really the type to debate but rather just wanting to point fingers to Arabian people.

EDIT: Copy-pasted my really old comment. It is done through Voyager app on phone, so let me know if it doesn’t copy well. Sometimes, I’m really curious if Israel supporters even know how the state they defend so passionately was created;

Israel became an actual state in 1948 by displacing 750 000 Palestinian people and murdering many (men, women and children). Laying sieges, bombarding villages and population centers, setting fires to homes, properties and goods. Planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled people from returning (source: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by ilan Pappé).

Hamas did not exist until 1987, they became an actual group only in 1987 because of all the horrifying things Israel had done from 1948 up until 1987. Which is approximately 40 years after what Israel had done to the Palestinian people.

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They also put their military among aid convoys and stuff, right? Super convenient.

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Literally yes.

Source - US aid group admits Gaza convoy was taken over by unvetted people before IDF struck them

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-aid-group-admits-gaza-convoy-taken-over-by-unvetted-people-before-idf-fired-at-them/

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Nice unbiased source you’ve got there… Care for an alternative version?

“Shortly after departing Kerem Shalom, initial reports indicate that four community members with experience in previous missions and engagement in community security with Move One came forward in a car and requested to take the place of the leading vehicle, citing concern that the route was unsafe and at risk of being looted,” it said.

“The four community members were neither vetted nor co-ordinated in advance, and Israeli authorities allege that the lead car was carrying numerous weapons,” it added. “However, the four individuals were not perceived by the convoy as a hostile threat.”

“The IDF had said on Thursday that a convoy of aid trucks from the American Near East Refugee Aid (Anera) organization entered the southern Rafah area with Israeli coordination. It said that during the drive, it identified a group of gunmen taking over a vehicle at the front of the convoy and beginning to lead it. The IDF described the act as a hijacking attempt.”

  • from your unbiased Times of Israel link.

I mean… dunno what to believe here… /s

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