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Signal always responds to authorities when they ask for data, and they give them all they have: the day they registered, their phone number and the timestamp they last used the app.

Telegram has unencrypted channels of drug dealing, and what I heard is a lot of illegal porn too. The authorities want information on certain users there and Telegram doesn’t comply. This is directly against the law Signal is not breaking, because they always send all the data they have to the law enforcement.

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Telegram is a propaganda weapon in some sense, between two worldviews - one is “a good service doesn’t require trust, because they physically can’t sell you”, another is “a good service you can trust because they won’t sell you”. And Telegram helps the latter.

So frankly - kill it with fire. Sadly I’m in Russia and everybody uses it here.

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while not wrong context matters, US social media companies also enable human, weapons, and drug trafficking. they play a role in a few genocides too.

but the western regime does not care.

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But they give their data when the officials ask. That is all that matters. And I seriously hope none of us uses Telegram or WhatsApp to any discussions. Use Signal because that is so far pretty unbreakable.

Telegram is already in the hands of that tiny Russian old man and WhatsApp is owned by a lizard.

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Yeah, try telling your family, friends, colleagues, therapist to use Signal.

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All of the illegal stuff like that that I’ve seen around on social media always linked to telegram channels. Most of the time what you see on regular social media are bots advertising the telegram channels, where the real people are at

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Hilarious that it’s impossible. They don’t even horde your data.

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Is it time stamp of last usage, or time stamp of all messages?

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