Zuckerberg said senior Biden administration officials “repeatedly pressured” Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram, to “censor” content in 2021. “I believe the government pressure was wrong, and I regret that we were not more outspoken,” he wrote to House Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio). “Like I said to our teams at the time, I feel strongly that we should not compromise our content standards due to pressure from any Administration in either direction – and we’re ready to push back if something like this happens again,” Zuckerberg added.

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Of course the public can only respond to a story after it has been released.

We are discussing Facebook censoring (incorrectly identified) misinformation.

The response letter of ex spies had nothing do to with Facebook’s actions, which were actually based on misleading FBI warnings.

Again, at no point have you established as a fact that it was not Russian propaganda.

You want me to prove a negative? Ok. No russians were involved in fixing Hunter’s laptop.

contradicting your claim that the public misconception about it was due to FBI planting the seeds.

I made no such claim. In fact the opposite is true. The lack of public communication by the FBI about the origins of the laptop story is what is damaging.

I gave you a letter of a bunch of intelligence officially pointing out how it has the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign.

None of which were true, because it has been proven in court via serial numbers that the laptop is genuine. Claims of Russian propaganda are pure misinformation.

“the laptop is his” which we agree is not in dispute,

We agree this is true, so how then do the Russians fit into your conspiracy theory?

Again, read the fucking letter.

Again, the letter was sent 5 days after censorship began. It is not relevant.

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We are discussing Facebook censoring (incorrectly identified) misinformation.

Again, you’ve yet to actually establish that this is the case.

The response letter of ex spies had nothing do to with Facebook’s actions, which were actually based on misleading FBI warnings.

Again, it explains how even if the laptop is real, that it could still be part of a Russian disinformation campaign. Sticking your fingers in your ears doesn’t make this go away.

You want me to prove a negative?

No, you’ve repeatedly claimed we know it’s not Russia disinformation, which is a positive assertion.

I made no such claim.

It’s right in your timeline.

None of which were true, because it has been proven in court via serial numbers that the laptop is genuine.

Holy shit I can’t believe you still haven’t read the letter. Amazing.

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Again, you’ve yet to actually establish that [Facebook censoring (incorrectly identified) misinformation] is the case.

See Zuckerberg’s statement

it could still be part of a Russian disinformation campaign

Nothing raised in that letter is relevant. There was no hacking. E-mails have been independently verified. The story is independent of Giuliani.

There is absolutely no evidence of Russian involvement between the point that the laptop was submitted for repair in April 2019 and the FBI subpoenaing the laptop in December 2019.

The FBI suggesting to facebook and twitter that the laptop was Russian Propaganda is pure misinformation.

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See Zuckerberg’s statement

I’m not even sure he said what you’re claiming he said, but regardless are we really saying “well, zuckerberg said it must be true!”? Please tell me we’re not there.

E-mails have been independently verified. The story is independent of Giuliani.

Your language is so tricky. I wonder why. Yes, some emails have been verified. But not all.

There is absolutely no evidence of Russian involvement between the point that the laptop was submitted for repair in April 2019 and the FBI subpoenaing the laptop in December 2019.

Again, tricky language. There are questions about how it got there at all, and there are chain of custody questions too. So sure, if they planted it, there is no evidence of their involvement after doing so.

The FBI suggesting to facebook and twitter that the laptop was Russian Propaganda is pure misinformation.

Except, again, according to the article you have posted and referenced multiple times, Zuckerberg says the FBI never said anything about the laptop. You seem to be picking and choosing when to believe Zuckerberg, conveniently when it suits your conclusion.

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