Hello comrades! Friendly reminder that American leftists continue to be threatened by gun loving conservatives. You should know how to defend yourself and you should probably own a gun. Find an active SRA, John Brown Gun Club, or (if things are dire) pink pistols or other βapoliticalβ gun club.
Iβve been in the SRA for 4 years, itβs not great, but I met comrades local to me. Iβve learned a lot from them and fash who post good firearms advice and I love to share that when I can.
Open for questions and Iβll post more getting started stuff if this doesnβt get banned.
There are many loads you could use that have good survivability yet are also decent at incapacitating. Go for a high (18, or 20) gauge and use buckshot. You can even get out make rock salt loads that are even safer. Hurt like hell, but thereβs a decent chance theyβll survive if you donβt shoot them in the face.
I mean, look: if itβs you, your family, or your friends, vs them, you still wouldnβt be able to pull a trigger? Then at least ask your spouse to train, so they can protect you when the NeoNazis march.
Even if the answer is βno,β and you know you could never intentionally kill someone, then at least arm yourself with the least lethal weapon you can find - a high caliber shotgun with rubber shot or salt loads. They make shotgun shells that shoot rubber and tear gas. Youβve tried to be minimally lethal while still protecting yourself and your loved ones. But with these chucklefucks, trying to be a pacifist and hoping theyβll just pass you by, that they wonβt rape your daughter, or wife (or husband), or neighbor or neighborβs kid while you stand impotently byβ¦ to me, knowing I could have some something but chose not is cause for far more moral anguish and guilt than killing someone who was threatening me and mine.
No spouse? No kids? No friends or loved ones youβd protect? No concern for innocents - kids of the wrong color, or kids wearing pride shirts? Nobody you care enough to protect?
Edmund Burke is famously quoted[1] as saying, Β«The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.Β»[2]
Burke did, in 1770, say, Β«When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.Β» Thereβs no evidence Burke ever said the other quote, but it was immortalized by Kennedy in 1961 βquotingβ Burke with those words. β©οΈ
It is more likely a paraphrase of a quote by British philosopher John Stuart Mill, who in 1867 said Β«Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.Β» β©οΈ
Yes, Iβve heard the βwouldnβt you kill people if your family was threatenedβ line before. Having never been in that situation, I canβt answer it. I do know, however, that I do not want a gun. Is it okay with you that I donβt want a gun?
Is it okay with you that I donβt want a gun?
Absolutely. No one should own a gun if they donβt think they could use it. You and your views are 100% valid and ok to have and fuck the other edge lord who Iβm guessing jerks off to war footage. I loath people with that kind of attitude.
Sure. You do you.
You didnβt say βI donβt want a gun,β though; you said that you didnβt think you could pull the trigger on a gun to kill someone, and thatβs different.
Are you anti-gun, uninterested in guns in general, a pacifist? I mean, could you kill someone with a knife, but just not a gun? Or are you opposed to all actions involving physical defense?
It sounded as if you just believe that you donβt have it in you to take a life, which is fine; I think thatβs the normal, healthy human condition. But thatβs not necessarily an indication of pacifism.
This isnβt an abstract, philosophical, unlikely prospect we face. Project 2025 outlines the extent to which American Fascists are willing to go, and January 6th demonstrated it.
I really do not feel the need to continue to justify myself to you.
Go ahead and imply that my stance enables fascism or whatever. Iβm sure youβll definitely berate me into picking up a gun and getting in the trenches.