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30 points

Whoa, that’s like 32GB of Windows RAM. Seems excessive to me tbh

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16 points

My Linux machine has 64 GiB of RAM, which is like 128 GiB of Mac RAM. It’s still not enough

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10 points

Serious question what are you using all that RAM for? I am having a hard time justifying upgrading one of my laptops to 32 GiB, nevermind 64 GiB.

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For me in particular I’m a software developer who works on developer tools, so I have a lot of tests running in VMs so I can test on different operating systems. I just finished running a test suite that used up over 50 gigs of RAM for a dozen VMs.

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5 points

If games, modding uses a lot. It can go to the point of needing more than 32gb, but rarely so.

Usually, you’d want 64gb or more for things like video editing, 3d modeling, running simulations, LLMs, or virtual machines.

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4 points

Photo Editing, Video Transcoding.

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Any memory that’s going unused by apps is going to be used by the OS for caching disk contents. That’s not as significant with SSD as with rotational drives, but it’s still providing a benefit, albeit one with diminishing returns as the size of the cache increases.

That being said, if this is a laptop and if you shut down or hibernate your laptop on a regular basis, then you’re going to be flushing the memory cache all the time, and it may buy you less.

IIRC, Apple’s default mode of operation on their laptops these days is to just have them sleep, not hibernate, so a Mac user would probably benefit from that cache.

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k8s

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16 points

The annoying thing is I have had people claim that 8GB and 16GB is fine on Apple and works better than on PC laptops. To the point one redditor point blank refused to believe I owned an Apple laptop. I literally had to take a photograph of said laptop and show it to them before they would believe me about the RAM capacity.

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15 points

You should have said “sure buddy” and ignored them.

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6 points

The problem is they will then keep spreading misinformation.

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4 points

Obviously it depends on the situation but sometimes it is worth talking to idiots not because you have any chance of changing their mind but just demonstrate to everyone else in the thread that they are in fact an idiot. Just in case somebody thinks they have a point.

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8 points

I own a 8GB MacBook Pro for work, it’s definitely better than a PC with 8GB of RAM, but not better or even close to a PC with 16GB. Just the amount of stutters/freezes while the swap file goes is insane

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9 points

Maybe this is true if you use Windows. If you use Linux on your PC versus macOS on a MacBook you will probably find the PC performs comparably if not better.

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7 points

Does it?

Previous benchmarks have shown the 8 GB models seriously fell behind in performance.

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27 points

Yeah I think the joke just flew over your head.

Apple keeps saying that their RAM is somehow magic and therefore better than Windows RAM, which is a comment that obviously makes no sense.

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4 points

I think they are able to share it with the GPU or something? It is maybe slightly better but it sure as fuck is not 2x better.

8 GB, even if it is “magic RAM,” is a joke amount and has been for a long time.

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2 points

Yeah I think the joke just flew over your head.

I realize this should be a joke, but I am still unsure if it is.

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6 points

Ironically, it’s the other way around, since Apple has to share their RAM between GPU and CPU, where other computers typically have them separately.

So in normal usage with 8 GB, you’re automatically down to 7, since at least 1GB would be taken by the graphics card. More if you’re doing anything reasonably graphics-heavy with it.

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4 points

Is it like SI RAM vs US Customary RAM?

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5 points

Yes. Freedom RAM equals approx. 1.6 metric RAMs. Unless your computer is on water, in which case it’s 1.857

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5 points

Is that calibrated against the Universal Prototype Kilobyte in Paris?

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AI Models needs that RAM to work

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