Living in Montreal I’ve gotten to the point where I only ride my own bike when I’m transporting paniers of stuff or doing an overnight trip. I installed a double kickstand on my old bike and its worked well until today when my old frame kicked the bucket. I realized that what I basically want is a slightly long tail cargo bike. A rack that’s big and built in, not electric, normal sized wheels and straight handlebars. The weird thing is, I can’t find this product. I’d assume it would be a popular choice for people touring with a lot of kit, but almost everything I’ve found seems to be for electric urban cruising with a couple of kids on the back. Has anyone else looked for this product and encountered a similar gap in the market?

The Yuba Mundo Lux is probably as close as I’ve seen, but has anyone done a few full days on it? It’s probably too much to spend if it can’t handle a few days on tour.

Edit: I’ve decided to dabble with a cheap second hand aluminum Kona Ute, because I live in a salted road winter an aluminum frame is good to have around. If I like it, I’ll probably invest in an electric option for the other 3 seasons.

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Look up Surly bikes. Surly is a QBP house brand. That is the biggest wholesale distributor in North America. Any shop should be able to order Surly stuff. The Trucker is the classic long haul touring bike. Then they have stretches like the Big Dummy which is intended for more serious cargo. Many a shop monkey has lusted after these.

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Yeah the Big Dummy is the other closest thing I found. Got any thoughts on it vs the Mundo Lux?

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I own a Big Dummy and had a Mundo Lux which I electrified.

The Big Dummy makes a great daily around town bike. That’s how I use it. Love it. It’s lighter than the Mundo. Definitely my #1 choice for a non-electric cargo bike.

See my long term review: https://mark.stosberg.com/surly-big-dummy-long-term-review/

And this third part slingset review: https://mark.stosberg.com/review-of-carsick-designs-xtra-big-one-slingset-for-surly-big-dummy-longtail-cargo-bike/

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This is awesome and confirms what I’ve been hoping, although it looks like the big dummy is being discontinued so I’ll probably have to move quick if I want one new. I have a couple of questions that it seems you’d have the answers to: Q) I think I know the answer from reading your blog, but if you didn’t own any cargo bike already, would you buy a Big Dummy or would you just put that money towards a Big Easy? Q) Is it possible to just ride around with the battery removed or flat? Is it pretty much the same bike plus the weight of the motor? Q) I already own nice (standard) paniers, can those be clipped onto the side of these cargo bikes, or do they have a different sort of rack. Q) Thoughts on riding an electric cargo bike in the snow/slush?

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