Ukraine wants permission from the west to use long-range Storm Shadow missiles to destroy targets deep inside Russia, believing this could force Moscow into negotiating an end to the fighting.

Senior figures in Kyiv have suggested that using the Anglo-French weapons in a “demonstration attack” will show the Kremlin that military sites near the capital itself could be vulnerable to direct strikes.

The thinking, according to a senior government official, is that Russia will consider negotiating only if it believes Ukraine had the ability “to threaten Moscow and St Petersburg”. This is a high-risk strategy, however, and does not so far have the support of the US.

Ukraine has been lobbying for months to be allowed to use Storm Shadow against targets inside Russia, but with little success. Nevertheless, as its army struggles on the eastern front, there is a growing belief that its best hope lies in counter-attack.

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Pretty obvious they’ve been trying heavily to get a permanent ceasefire.

Trying would have been ending the weapons deals, applying sanctions, etc.

I mean, what, do you actually believe Harris and Biden want to be associated with and commit genocide?

No, I don’t think they do. But I also think their campaign managers are looking at the number of “we stand with israel” signs in people’s yards (among other things obv) and they’re realizing that taking a hard stance against Israel’s genocide of palestinians would lose them too many votes.

So they’re skidish about doing the right thing, and taking a half assed approach of trying to negotiate with a dude who’s doing a genocide.

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they’re realizing that taking a hard stance against Israel’s genocide of palestinians would lose them too many votes.

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Exactly! You got it! They’re skittish because this is an election year and the bigger picture is this: 1) Signal to the pro-Palestinian group by way of leaks of how much Harris & Biden dislike Bibi now, 2) Publicly denounce the collateral damage done in Gaza, 3) Negotiate for a permanent ceasefire behind the scenes… All the while recognizing: IF Harris loses this election, then all your complaining and all the protests will just be ignored farrrrr more than they are now.

I mean look, even IF Biden pulls all aid. There is nothing stopping Trump from just immediately resuming it in 6 months. At the same time, we all know Bibi is a corrupt sadistic fuck who ignored obvious intelligence of an impending attack once already; so what’s stopping him from utilizing a false-flag after Biden withdraws aid to smear the Democrats and say, “Omg, look Biden took all the aid away and we were left defenseless against the rapist murdering Hamas!” <- This sinks a campaign, btw.

So here’s the calculus at play: You either toe the line with both groups to carve out the largest electorate possible to defeat the guy who couldn’t care less about Gazans and put an end to this FOR GOOD in February… Or you come down hard and risk losing the election and fucking Gazans for the next FOUR years — which is it?

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Oh I agree that they’re in a no win situation. I’ve been aware of that and never in denial.

But to say they’ve been trying hard for a ceasefire fire is misleading at best. That’s the part I disagree with you on.

There is no convincing Bibi, that’s been made clear. He is perpetuating this situation for his own power, and the land he wants to seize. The only thing that’s gonna put a stop to it from our end is embargoes and sanctions, and even then that’s only ever going to do so much.

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I think we agree on the meat of the matter. I’m just confused because you wrote:

they’re continuing to provide weapons. Not much of an effort to prevent genocide.

Trying would have been ending the weapons deals, applying sanctions, etc.

but then also recognize why they can’t do these things; so within the framework of what they can and cannot do, are they not doing everything they strategically can do without jeopardizing the bigger picture of the election? That’s all I’m trying to say.

That’s why people like me who absolutely despise Bibi and are pro-civilian are trying to convey this message by trying to point to the big picture. I mean Bibi and AIPAC are basically doing all they can to get a Trump presidency, much like Putin. Leftists associating Biden and Harris with genocide ahead of the pivotal election is effectively shooting ourselves, and Gazans, in the foot.

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