Uyghurs and Ukraine are great filters for figuring out who's actually a fascist(lemmy.world)

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afivedaystorm@lemmy.world

9 points

3 months ago

My deal with China is this, The CCP is posing as a communist regime to gain more control over its citizens, it is not communism because there is no democracy.

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Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de

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3 months ago

They have elections in China, but yeah, as an outsider it is clear to see that the establishment significantly controls who is allowed to run. I just wish people realized that entrenched solid red and solid blue states in the US aren’t much better.

So it just feel hypocritical when we criticize China for having a shitty democracy and yet we tolerate our deeply undemocratic two party plutocracy. If we truly valued democracy then we would demand a modern proportional multiparty system like they have in Europe

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calcopiritus@lemmy.world

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3 months ago

How many parties are there in china?

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∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name, kitty]@lemmy.ml

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calcopiritus@lemmy.world

5 points

3 months ago

Just looked at that wikipedia article. Those parties need the CCP’s permission to even exist. Sounds more like a democracy theater than actual democracy.

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3 months ago

If the Republican party were dissolved and only the Democratic party remained, would that make the US more democratic or less democratic?

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calcopiritus@lemmy.world

5 points

3 months ago

There are two things that need to happen for your hypothetical scenario:

The republican party gets dissolved.
Only the democrat party remains.

If “1.” happens, then another party will appear and they’d be back to having 2 parties. Because of the way the US electoral system works, there is an equilibrium at 2 parties, due to game theory. No more, no loss. Depending if the new party is more or less democratic, the US would be more or less democratic.

For “2.” to happen, there must be some change to the US electoral system, which would make it less democratic. It would probably be a move by the democrats to seize all the power to themselves and ensure they don’t have to share it with any other party. That would result in a less democratic US.

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OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml

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3 months ago

So the existence a major party that is constantly trying to subvert popular will through things like gerrymandering, voter suppression, regulatory capture, appointing corrupt judges, and making sure that the rich and powerful are able to do anything they want and are never held accountable is what separates the democracy of the US from those evil, authoritarian, one-party states, do I have that right?

How is having a party that tries to undermine democracy to that degree an indication of a healthy democracy?

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calcopiritus@lemmy.world

3 points

3 months ago

Because the thing about democracies is that the people have the power. The people can vote and choose their leaders. Sometimes those leaders try to remove power from the people, and there is people dumb enough to still vote for them.

Those people, even if dumb, still are represented, and that’s what democracy is about. Because if you remove all the parties except one, that one party has no one to hold them accountable.

Even if you really like that one party, they have no reason to stay the same with the same ideals, eventually someone who want power above the will of the people will get a lot of power in that one-party system. And now you have an authoritarian state with no opposition.

There must always be opposition to make sure that the party in power has something to lose if they don’t work for their voters’ interest.

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