I have tried the ones you are describing and they’re still shit. At that point, just skip the dang straw and design your cups to work well without.

The most annoying thing is most places giving out paper straws still put their iced coffee in a big plastic cup.

Every one I ever had was shit.

Metal ones work great for me, but paper? Come on, I’d rather have no straw at all. It’s just more junk, more CO2.

Every single paper straw I’ve ever used has been awful, and has significantly diminished my enjoyment of my drink.

While it is a small thing, I have on multiple occasions not bought a drink when I otherwise might have, because it was going to have to use a paper straw.

Of all the places where we can reduce plastic usage, the humble straw is a horrible place to start.