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You’re acting like that was her personal decision and not an order she had to follow rather than her personal view

Could she have resigned instead?

Sure. And just like when people did it in the trump admin, the people you disagree with would just appoint someone who agrees with them.

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She wasn’t working at a concentration camp…

Would you rather have someone as pro-Iseael as Biden?

How do you think that would have actually helped anything?

Legitimately, spell it out for me how her being replaced would have benefited anyone.

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She wasn’t working at a concentration camp…

She’s literally getting paid to cover up repercussions for a concentration camp.

Legitimately, spell it out for me how her being replaced would have benefited anyone.

If enough people don’t follow orders the orders cannot be followed.

The moral fallacy is the assumption that if she rejects the orders the system can continue turning. If a few people reject orders they can be replaced. If enough people reject orders the system falls apart. Just like a worker strike.

Bidens replacement is all the evidence needed that I’m right. He got trashed in the polls and then trashed IRL.

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If she had a problem with it, she wouldn’t have been put into that role. If your boss wants you to do something unethical, you should either resign or speak up against it. Anything else is full complicity.

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If your boss wants you to do something unethical, you should either resign or speak up against it. Anything else is full complicity.

You don’t remember the last admin?

Shit got worse when people resigned and were replaced by worse people…

Did you miss all of that?

If everyone that wants to do the right thing resigns and are replaced by people willing to do anything, the net result is the admin gets worse while retaining all the same power.

Sometimes you have to do all the good you can do, or choose to do nothing at all.

That’s just life…

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So you think that Biden will replace her with someone who will be in more in favor of genocide? Why do you insist on holding the Democrats to such a low bar, rather than getting them to do something beyond just “not be Republicans”?

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And just like when people did it in the trump admin, the people you disagree with would just appoint someone who agrees with them.

Then let those people be the piece of shit. This isn’t an excuse.

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So she was just following orders? I wonder where that defense was tried before…

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3 points

That’s Numberwang!

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“Some other people are even more Evil” isn’t the great excuse for evildoing that you seem to think it is.

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How did it work when people resigned under trump?

Did it make his admin better?

Or did trump replace them with worse people and do worse shit?

This ain’t a hypothetical, we literally just saw how it plays out…

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Your reusing of the exact same argument with different wording doesn’t magically make it a better argument - an honest person judges others on the quality of their actions, and such moral judgment is wholly independent of their tribe.

The “what about those people of that other tribe” is not an argument about the quality of the actions of this person because there is no chain of causality linking them - she is not doing it because the past actions of those others forced her to act like this now. Pulling such unrelated events up is morally dishonest and means you’re a Tribalist first and foremost, hence you are also unethical and immoral as you put tribe-membership above Ethics and Moral when judging such actions.

There is no such thing as being Honest, Ethical or Moral if a person’s Tribe changes your judgement of their actions: the supporting of Genocide by a member of the Democratic Party is not made any less or any more deserving of condemnation by their membership of the Democratic party or by there being members of the Republican party who did or would do the same or worse - the actions speak for themselves, PERIOD.

Yours is the kind of excusing of Evil that makes Zionists go around mass murdering Palestinian children or supporting those who do: they do the Evil they do with such gusto and intensity that it amounts to Genocide and then claim it’s only because of what Hamas did before: i.e. the greater evil done by “my side” they justify with the evil done by “the other side” even though causally the latter does not cause the former - there really is no need to kill tends of thousands of children to get at Hamas.

No matter what their tribe, any person commiting such actions whilst saying such things as this lady deserves exactly the same opprobrium, and that includes this lady. Her tribe and those other people’s tribe is irrelevant for anybody who is an Ethical, Moral and Honest person.

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