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Ignoring that this is a form of birth control, would you quote a woman who asked the same question the price for a hysterectomy?

The point I’m getting at is that women have a disparate amount of control over determining the outcome of the situation. In many ways that’s how it should be but the obvious follow up question is is it fair to force someone else to pay money to support a decision that you made without their consent? If you’re going to give women the option to back out of a pregnancy without input from their partner after their birth control fails then why can a man not have the same option?

I’ve never heard an actual answer to these questions aside from “men have had the power for centuries so deal with it” and sure, that’s true, but I don’t think that’s adequate justification for implementing a system that is ostensibly supposed to be more equitable than what we had before. This just seems inequitable in the opposite direction.

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I like how you completely ignore the man’s options for not getting someone pregnant. Like, say masturbation, abstention, non-vaginal sex, sex with people who can’t get pregnant, vasectomy, and condoms. But somehow it’s all the woman’s problem, isn’t it?

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Isn’t that the same logic anti-abortion activists use to argue against a woman’s right to choose? She should have kept her legs closed, birth control exists, abstinence, etc. It’s pretty odd to me that you don’t see the hypocrisy in that.

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Because you’re missing “bodily autonomy.” The woman has bodily autonomy over her body. Whether she has a baby, an abortion, takes birth control, has sex, etc. It’s not hypocritical at all if you innately understand and respect bodily autonomy. Do you get where the boundary of her body starts and yours ends?

A boundary is a limit you place on yourself - eg wearing birth control like a condom, or performing sex acts that won’t lead to pregnancy. Being a controlling dickwad is when you start dictating to others what their boundaries and responses should be. In this way, you can see how men are indeed responsible for their actions and for paying child support.

And before you bring up abortion again - the fetus by definition isn’t autonomous. It’s surviving off the mother.

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It must be nice to live in a world where rape and coercion don’t exist, where every pregnancy is carried to term without endangering the life of the mother, and where every child is born entirely healthy. Unfortunately, the rest of us have to live in reality, not your pleasing little fantasy world.

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A hysterectomy is no where equivalent in terms of surgery itself or fertility later.

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