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  1. It’s not my battle, my country wasn’t invaded. His was, but he had already left, and refuses to go back and help, but defends the people invading his country. That’s pathetic and cowardly, and spoken by someone in a position of privilege from foreign soil (again, he left before the invasion) but claims to speak for his countrymen and women actually living through the atrocities and attacks.

  2. My country is supplying military aid to Ukraine via my tax dollars, so while I’m not directly fighting, my country and myself are assisting them in their effort to defend themselves against an unjustified invasion.

  3. I am a veteran of my country’s armed services, can you say the same?

  4. I also never told him to go fight, but it seems pathetic and cowardly to sit behind a computer screen in another country, claim to speak on behalf of your home nation while propagating Russian-media talking points. So I stand by what I’ve said.

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It’s not my battle

Do you think we’d be sending them weapons (and buying up their assets for pennies) if this battle wasn’t yours?

My country is supplying military aid to Ukraine via my tax dollars

They’ve also supported Israel. By that logic, you, personally are assisting them in genocide.

I am a veteran of my country’s armed services, can you say the same?

I will serve crack before I serve this country. Look at every military action in this country’s history since WWII. In none of them were we the good guys.

I also never told him to go fight

Oh fuck off. He knows more about the situation than you do. He is right there experiencing it.

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Do you think we’d be sending them weapons (and buying up their assets for pennies) if this battle wasn’t yours?

Welcome to the world under capitalism, guess we should just do nothing then, fuck all the actual people that live in Ukraine and have had their lives upended or destroyed because of the war.

Seriously? Fuck off with that bullshit.

They’ve also supported Israel. By that logic, you, personally are assisting them in genocide.

Yep, and I’m fucking pissed about it. This discussion also isn’t about Israel, so don’t change the subject.

I will serve crack before I serve this country. Look at every military action in this country’s history since WWII. In none of them were we the good guys.

Edgy, wow, impressed. Never said we were, just said I’ve served, so don’t put words in my mouth.

Oh fuck off. He knows more about the situation than you do. He is right there experiencing it.

By his own admission, he left Ukraine before the invasion, so no, he isn’t there experiencing it. He’s safely in another country, acting like he understands what’s going on in a country he currently doesn’t live in. And then acts like he speaks on behalf of Ukraine when they democratically elected their leader, continue to fight against their unjustified invaders, despite apparently living in a prison-state worse than Russia.

While also claiming Russia is not actively engaged in the very same activities he is accusing Ukraine of.

So go fuck yourself, I don’t know why you’re defending some Russian troll.

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fuck all the actual people that live in Ukraine and have had their lives upended or destroyed because of the war.

They wouldn’t have had their lives upended if we weren’t doing everything in our power to prolong the war! This is the absolute worst case scenario for actual Ukrainians.

Never said we were, just said I’ve served, so don’t put words in my mouth.

So you understand making the world a worse place isn’t the gotcha you seem to think it is right?

they democratically elected their leader

The one who suspended elections after he got elected on a platform of peace and failed to end the civil war?

apparently living in a prison-state worse than Russia.

How many Ukrainians living in Ukraine do you know? I’m certain it’s less than the actual Ukrainian right here telling you what the situation is.

So go fuck yourself, I don’t know why you’re defending some Russian troll.

You really don’t give a shit about actual Ukrainians beyond their willingness to bleed for the profits of the military industrial complex.

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