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Otherwise, no doctor would ever touch any patient ever again.

Demonstrably false. In a public healthcare system it is also possible to have publicly funded patient injury compensation systems. Source: Live in Norway and we have both.

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That’s not the same. You still don’t have any legal claims against the hospital or the doctor. You can’t sue your surgeon, because you missed, say another week of work because of some unexpected bleeding.

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Uhm what are you talking about? Why would I want to sue my surgeon?

EDIT: The reasons why I would not sue my surgeon are:

  1. It is not a private legal matter, but a matter of adequate services rendered.
  2. The question of liability can be better answered by a specialized team of doctors that review my case than a jury.
  3. Legal action is an obstacle made to disenfranchise those that cannot afford counsel, which is why the US loves it and we generally don’t.
  4. We have laws that demand reasonable judgement. Hence I cannot make a claim for damages due to some unrelated reason and they cannot evade guilt by the same tactic.

If the surgeon did something illegal, this would be a different matter.

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The whole point of the discussion was that arbitration clauses should be illegal, since they prevent you from suing.

Points were made, that it’s still a good thing for tattoo artists and doctors. Your earlier comment seemed to dispute this at first, but then pivoted to funds for damages (that exist and you can get without legal action.

You were then told that’s besides the point of the discussion, since it was exactly about suing.

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