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Of course, I was taught that Liberal capitalist ran democracy is somehow the only legitimate form of democracy. The question is how should democracy be implemented in a way that ensures the workers have power.

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I mean, personally I think the Chinese nailed it. How else do you have government satisfaction rates - as measured by outside observers - that are 90% and above?

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What the hell are you talking about? China is using “communism” to mask the fact that they’re a state capitalist dictatorship. Nothing about China is socialist and in many ways corporations in China face even less regulations and restrictions then the west. I would also like to see the source of that statistic because outside observers have been banned from making any statistics about the Chinese government and economy.

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I would also like to see the source

Here’s the Harvard study I’m referencing.

We find that first, since the start of the survey in 2003, Chinese citizen satisfaction with government has increased virtually across the board. From the impact of broad national policies to the conduct of local town officials, Chinese citizens rate the government as more capable and effective than ever before. Interestingly, more marginalized groups in poorer, inland regions are actually comparatively more likely to report increases in satisfaction.

This puts the 2016 central government satisfaction at 93.1%, Provincial at 81.7%, County at 73.9%, and Township at 70.2%. 75.1% of respondents also replied that they were “satisfied with eventual outcome” after an interaction with a local official.

Now granted this is all pre-COVID, pre-Xi Jinping’s third term, Pre-Hong Kong protests - but also pre-elimination of absolute poverty, pre-green energy revolution, and pre-massive rise in worker wages.

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It couldn’t possibly be that people are too scared to criticize the CCP, right? … right?

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The study I’m referencing was an anonymous study conducted by Harvard between 2003 and 2016. It would strain credulity to suggest that the study’s participants all anonymously said that they love their government out of fear - firstly because they rated their government a lot lower in 2003 than they did in 2016, secondly because Harvard isn’t exactly in the pocket of the Communist Party of China.

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