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Wasn’t the last good Terminator product released in '91? I hope this one’s good, but it’ll have to be really good to entice people put off by all the cash-grabs…

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I’d say that Terminator Dark Fate was pretty good - and that was 2019. If you’re a fan of T1 and T2 (like most people), I feel like it’s worth calling Dark Fate T3 and ignoring most of the other stuff.

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I really don’t mean to offend but that’s the problem with shitty franchises: even the vocal supporters say it’s “okay” or “pretty good”. Is that really the bar!?

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Hell no. Terminator 3, Salvation, Genisys, Dark Fate, and The Sarah Connor Chronicles all had their moments, and I can’t honestly say I hated a single one.

It’s been 30 years since T2 came out. Either you’re still engaged with the franchise and interested the newer films or you’re not. Comparing everything to T2 forever is pointless, just like it’s pointless to compare every new Alien entry to Aliens or every new Star Wars entry to Empire.

I personally like how every entry in the franchise has tried so hard to retcon itself as a sequel to T2 that it’s turned into a Doctor Who style timey wimey kudzu plot, but maybe that’s just me.

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The problem with every terminator after 2 is that they went from “no fate but what we make” to determinism.

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Not sure what you mean there. The only one in the series that gets close to determination is the first one, and even that one implies the future is changeable despite being in a stable time loop.

The Sarah Connor Chronicles is the furthest away from determinism, not T2.

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