lemmy.world does not align with the values of this server and we will be disallowing federation in the near future. Please switch to another instance if you would like to maintain access.

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woah. I’m not on world, but I’m curious, if I may, why exactly the defederation? Do world users kinda brigade on here with anti-vegan BS? I may have noticed it I suppose, but maybe not specifically coming from world.

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Yes, we are purging all neoliberal garbage from this server. Lemmy.world functions as a mouthpiece for state propaganda. There are too many users and its structure is bad for the fediverse as a whole. The drive by downvotes and trolls mostly seem to come from large generalist instances and this is social media for real people we are taking steps to protect ourselves and whatever community we can eek out.

To make it worse they are now running a “AI” based lazily programmed “bias check” bots. The US and its allies are not reputable thus having them run bias check databases is a joke. This, along with similar AI tools in my view is building the tools for totalitarianism and should not be tolerated. Using automation to lazily check sources using only billionaire funded media as “reputable sources” of truth is disgusting. Blocking the bot isn’t enough, I don’t want that at all. Anyone who is building these tools are the enemy of free people.

I am assisting with some final cleanup here then I will pass the admin role and community stuff to a friend and be out. I will probably post my pics to this community but the rest of lemmy has lost interest to me personally.

edit removed AI based, I guess it is dumber than I thought. I still do not want bots doing any kind of bias check in which US point of views are considered neutral.

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Sorry to hear

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I disagree towards the bots being the enemy of the free people. They’re just another tool, and can be both good and bad. Plus they’re likely needed when it comes to mass-scale disinformation campaigns like those launched by hostile foreign nations against countries in an effort to destabilize them. Much like veganism is far more nuanced than “eat salads”, I believe technology and social media is far more nuanced than you’re acknowledging.

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All nations are hostile, especially the one developing the technology behind these bots. I am not a nation state and I have no enemies.

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Really? I did not yet see that there. Only the media bias bot, which uses the Media Bias/Fact Check database, but afaik no AI

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I thought the idea was that it uses the “AI” to summarize the articles posted then runs them across the database to check the facts and their sources. If it is dumber than that good, regardless I don’t want any Americans doing any fact checking. They are the least reputable and least trustworthy people in the world.

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The MBFC bot just lists that media outlets’ broad reputation and doesn’t use AI to fact check any specific article in any way.
It isn’t meant to fact check stuff that people post, but to make people think about the known bias of that media outlet.

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edited: Ok, I redact my statement and edited my post about this bot but not about the idea. I don’t think this is a valuable service. The real problem with lemmy.world is that it is pushing state propaganda, poorly gatekept and not in alignment with my values.

I still do not want any type of bots doing any kind of bias check in which US point of views are considered neutral. This is social media for humans so I want what is posted here to be about us and what we are doing. Pictures of our gardens, what we cooked, weedtime memes. Posting links to imperial propaganda that needs a bot which is ad supported to do critical thinking for you is out of scope of what I want from lemmy and what my few friends who are users on this server want. Use sh.itjust.works if you want everything, it is a great instance.

Me personally I am tired of lemmy but there is a sunk cost here instead of cancelling this server I am intentionally making it smaller and easier to manage so that my friend can take over. If it just ends up being my 15 discord friends and federation turned off that is fine too.

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Thanks!

I still do not want bots doing any kind of bias check in which US point of views are considered neutral.

Having not paid much attention to the bits, I hadn’t thought of this. Thanks. Interestingly, the head world is Dutch IIRC.

but the rest of lemmy has lost interest to me personally.

Sad to hear and understandable I suppose. If I may ask … what is that’s lost you … a rampant US centric Reddit mainstream culture settling in without enough niche communities thriving?

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What lost me is the non stop US politics and tacit support of wars and violence. I do not care about the US, its politics, or wars between corrupt neoliberal countries. Frankly it is annoying to see nothing but that on my feed while those same people down vote my posts and post about me on drama communities. I really don’t want to pay to host literal US propaganda coming from lemmy.world and be personally responsible for transmitting their perverse messaging.

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Yes, as I have seen the most carnist trolls and liberals comments originating from that instance.

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That tracks. Fucking carnist trolls. Such a weird phenomenon to me. If you’re not vegan, just move along, it’s clearly not something you’re interested in. Feels a bit like closeted LGBTQ people becoming loud homophobes.

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Vegan Home Cooks

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Come join the Vegan Home Cooks!

Participation is really easy, just take a picture of what you cooked today and post it, no recipes needed.


This is a public forum for a discord server of friends who are all vegans and cook at home for their families.

We are here to share some inspiration, to see what others are doing and to stay engaged in something that is both our hobby and a required task.

This forum is not a “food porn” community, a recipe book or a place to teach you how to cook. It is a place for people who already cook to meet other people like themselves and provide on topic support and conversation as much as long distance friends on the internet can do. We are doing show and tell about what we made and we don’t care about its instagram worthiness.

Veganism isn’t a diet but I have to eat every day. This is for the vegan home cooks. Anything non vegan will be deleted.


Rules

1. Be Vegan.

If it is not vegan it doesn’t belong here… or anywhere.

2. Post home cooking.

No restaurant or fast food. This is what every other vegan space is about and we don’t want to promote any large or small business tyrants.

3. Join the Discord

We’re an active community of vegan home cooks that like to talk about what we are cooking today.

4. Do not make any rude comments or digs at anyone’s food, cooking style, specific diet, restrictions or technique.

While we are all cooks, we all have different requirements and we’re not asking for help, we are doing show and tell.

5. Do not use trademarked brands

Use generic names. We’re cooking with tvp not whatever business brands it and we’re not trying to turn comrades into billboards. No plant-based vegan-pandering capitalist crap like Impossible, Beyond, Dairy-company owned “vegan” cheese.

6. Do not ask for a recipe without otherwise engaging the OP (No posts that are just “recipe?”)

We are not food bloggers. Sometimes we’re excited to share and will tell you the recipes we used but this isn’t required. Instead try doing your own research and tell us what you learned and we can talk about it.

7. Careful with making unasked for suggestions.

Sometimes we like to hear suggestions but you should be nice about it and know the person you are making suggestions to. We are in the discord and you can get to know us that way. If you are just a visitor from the fediverse, this isn’t the place for you to start telling other people what to do.

8. Grown Ups Only.

Cooking for our kids is great, Acting like one is not. While this isn’t a community for adult material we expect everyone who participates to be an adult and act like one. Please follow the Anarchists Code of Conduct. No profane usernames allowed.

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