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not a single police department in the nation DNA tests.

So you made this statement without knowing if it was true or not as you go on to say that “there is no national database of all precinct’s police reports, you will have to go to your police department and see for yourself”.

Bad faith arguments always end with “go and find out for yourself”.

Can I ask what do you think the word breed means? It’s not a specific dog, it’s a term to describe a grouping of dogs (Shepards for example). And out of the 300 plus recognised groupings/breeds of dog, Pitbulls kill more than all of them combined. Even if you split it down to each sub-grouping, the dogs under the umbrella term “Pit Bull” still vastly outstrip all other dogs in attacks and fatalities.

I would also point out that almost none of these lists you read online include German Shephards, which is strange since they tend to be the only dog in the US that is commissioned as Police Officer and are frequently attacking people as part of their job. Further evidence that these lists are unscientific and politically motivated.

In this post I provided another commenter a breakdown of fatalities caused by dogs and the graph shows German shepherds specifically cause less than 3% of fatalities over 16 years. Meanwhile the 5 dogs that make up Pit Bulls are responsible for an average of 67%.

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Again, there is no database of dog genetics that police maintain in the US, unless it was created after 2021.

Meaning all the stats you have are based solely on media reports of dog attacks and not actual dog attacks.

You can also contact the people compiling the lists. If they respond, they will admit that they do not track the rate of attacks committed by German Shepherds in the line of duty.

We also know that Cane Corso’s probably attack a few people per year, yet almost every list excludes them… Because they are counted towards pit bulls.

If you can provide an actual scientifically validated list, I am happy to see it. Otherwise your numbers are fiction and you know it.

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Again, there is no database of dog genetics that police maintain in the US, unless it was created after 2021.

Many organisations provide data/breakdowns of dog attacks, just because there isn’t (or you are unable to provide) a centralised police data base that lists this information doesn’t mean the statistics dont exist.

Meaning all the stats you have are based solely on media reports of dog attacks and not actual dog attacks.

Again you are making assumptions here, can you prove this or am I going to be told to go and find out for myself again?

Your original point was that the police don’t perform DNA testing so how can we know, but you have given me nothing that confirms that. I don’t even understand your point anymore; It’s like you are throwing shit at a wall and hoping something sticks.

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Your sources are a personal injury law firm and a victim’s advocate website.

Are they taking their numbers from media reports?

Your first source says 60% of dog fatalities are from dogs with Pits in their bloodline…

So mixed breeds are being counted as full pits for the sake of building a case?

Which further confirms my statement that you do not have true scientific numbers to support your claims. Ambulance chasers are not scientists. I don’t think that needs to be explained to you.

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