cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15059816

transcript [text overlaid on several pictures of benches and outside windowsills. the benches have bars, or gaps to prevent someone from sleeping on them.

text reads “Ban anti-homeless arctithecture”]

sauce: https://mastodon.social/@AnarchistArt/112901196516297447

Hostile architecture is among the symptoms of the hostile modern city, where neighbours never say hi, and people die on the streets as people walk passivly by.

You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context
4 points

So every single person in the world should be a vigilante?

No way that can end poorly.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Maybe if people had to be responsible for the violence they outsource to cops maybe they’d think about it twice.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

You’re kidding me, right?

Suppose some jackass steals from you. If you don’t want to risk your life to get it back, you just shouldn’t get it back? What kind of libertarian bullshit is that? I thought anarchy was about collectivism, or at least pretended to be.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Obviously a society set up to force citizens to engage with power structures like police isn’t going to mesh will with anarchist ideas. A lot of anarchists just don’t do shit when they get victimized like that. The cops aren’t going to find your stuff and if they do they aren’t going to give it back. You suck it up, accept the loss, and ask your community for mutual aid.

But what if society wasn’t like that? What if we created other avenues for empowerment besides go to the cops or deal with it? What if there was a justice system based on restorative justice and rehabilitation instead of violence and oppression? It turns out that most people are only stealing things because they can’t meet their needs any other way, and most people actually don’t want to just randomly hurt others if they have adequate food, shelter, services, and community. Build a society based on helping people up instead of beating them down, and appealing to your community for help no longer necessitates violence.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points
*

There’s a divers range of anarchist schools of thought & some of the oldest are forms of individualist anarchism, Max Stirner was contemporary with Marx. You should read his work it not only deals with formal hierarchies but also not being ruled by arbitrary concepts, he’s famous/infamous for using hagelian dielectics to deconstruct hagelian dielectics(I’m some what of a hagelian myself /meme).

I was using outsourced figuratively, I was trying to express that the vast majority of people are completely divorced from the violence committed on their behalf. An example is when someone calls the cops over something minor & the cops show up & immediately escalate until they kill someone.

Edit: You can have formal & informal systems in place to minimize/help prevent unnecessary violence under anarchism, they just need to avoid hierarchy.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Not just that. But what if two anarchists disagree with each other? Who wins? The one who is willing to escalate the highest? My neighbor doesn’t like my native wildflowers, so we yell at each other until someone pulls a gun?

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

If you’re both batshit insane, sure.

Of course normal people just have polite conversations.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Fortunately for us, everyone on earth has totally rational responses to all situations. And we all agree: we want things to be good, and not bad. And it’s very obvious what things are which!

The thing about the flowers is obviously trivial. There are other matters where a violent ‘direct action’ is obviously warranted.

There are a million things in the middle that are nuanced and difficult and entirely susceptible to ‘person who threatens the most escalation wins’ outcomes.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Anarchism

!anarchism@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Create post

A community for anarchist. Anarchism is a set of philosophies that promotes a world free of hierarchical systems.

No electioneering, no telling people to or not to vote or who to vote for. Interpretating this rule as forbidding critisism of candidates is certainty an interpretation but in the context of an ANARCHIST space it’s a bad interpretation.

No bootlicking & that will include being hyper pedantic about people calling politicians, prosecutors, bureaucrats, etc, cops.

Yes, if you’re an obnoxious neo-lib you’re going to get banned. If you’re not obnoxious & have good faith questions you can stay.

All Capybara Are Bros IDTSCJSTDNBDLFTSATICLPE

Community stats

  • 89

    Monthly active users

  • 48

    Posts

  • 305

    Comments

Community moderators