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111 points

This is our choice. Come November I have no choice but to vote for this mumbling old man.

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186 points

I would vote for a wet sandwich before I vote for Trump, but Jesus Christ, it would be nice if the democrats fucking tried.

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45 points

Yep. Same boat.

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30 points

They won’t until they absolutely have to.

Which at this rate is fucking never.

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-3 points

“You’ve convinced me, now make me do it”

You are seeing what 80 years of worldwide violent repression of leftist ideology have culminated in.

Fuck the boat, I hope we all drown.

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9 points

Thought they would have learned something from that whole Hillary and Sanders debacle. But I guess not.

OR… they don’t give a fuck either since they’re all on the same corporate payroll

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Why doesn’t anyone call him out on lying about running for a second term? I very vividly remember hearing him say in 2020 that he would not seek reelection and yet here we are.

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4 points

Yeah, I don’t get it. I was confused and not happy when I saw he was running again. He could’ve gone out like a heavily watered down LBJ, instead he’s going to be forever remembered as the lost nursing home patient who wandered onto the debate stage. This is an unmitigated disaster, and the only way forward I see now is have Joe step down and let Kamala be the president. I’m not excited for that prospect, but I assume she can at least win a debate against a potted plant.

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6 points

I dunno about you guys, but I didn’t believe it for a second when he said he was going to be one term. Shame on him for lying, even if it was obvious.

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9 points

Why doesn’t anyone call him out on lying about running for a second term?

never saw this. citation requested thanks

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10 points

I would vote for a wet sandwich before I vote for Trump, but Jesus Christ, it would be nice if the democrats fucking tried.

why should they? you’re going to give them what they want from you anyways in november and multiple novembers into the future; there’s literally no reason for them to ever bother.

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3 points

You can’t pin that on the voter because not voting for the democrats is effectively voting for the republicans. It’s a problem of the two party system

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13 points

Remember when a bunch of people didn’t vote because the Democrat candidate was a piece of shit? And then trump won? And then the democratic party said “oh wow we should put up actual candidates instead of decrepit neolibs” except they didn’t because they didn’t learn shit.

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11 points

Imagine if they had spent last 4 years promoting some young faces as potential candidates.

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Democrats suffer from a condition that I’ve come to call “Democratic Realism,” named after Capitalist Realism. No matter how much they get their shit kicked in. No matter how badly they do. No matter how little they accomplish. No matter how badly they look or do in debates. Democrats always believe, beyond a shred of doubt, that they’ll win elections without trying. Not because of their own merits, but because they’re just the only “real” choice; they simply can’t fathom anyone willingly voting for their opponents.

Hillary barely campaigned in the “flyover states” that she needed to win because she couldn’t be fucking bothered to actually try. It wasn’t worth the effort to try and persuade people she thought of as her lessers. And the DNC just went “well, it’s obviously her turn. She’s been waiting for the chance at the presidency for 20 years now. We should go ahead and let her be president.” Because that’s the mentality. They don’t have to “win” elections. They just pick a candidate and they get to win, because there is no “real” alternative. That Bush and Trump won don’t indicate that, yeah, actually, you do have to fight for the people who are voting for you, otherwise they’ll vote for the schmuck that appeals to their basest and most venal instincts. Those were just flukes…right? And you don’t have to inspire confidence and admiration in others, because they should just recognize how smart and accomplished and inoffensive their candidates are, and that they’re told to vote for them by people that are smarter than they are, so they should just shut up and do it.

It’s a party driven less by any kind of ideological goals and more by a pervasive sense of smug, impotent, lazy egotism. And, yeah, they’ll get a shitload of votes in the elections because the alternative always seems to be someone who is one goose-step shy of a literal Nazi. Biden will probably even win the popular vote. Y’know…just like Hillary did…

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3 points

I never thought of it like that, well written.

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3 points

Yeah, I think you’ve got a good handle on it.

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Good essay. I don’t know if you remember after Obama won in 2008 a bunch of democratic party apparatchiks came up with this idea of “the coalition of the ascendant” and that they pretty much had the government locked in for a generation, due to support that would never waver for them amongst immigrants, yuppies, tech bros, etc. They didn’t need the working class anymore and the Republicans would be the minority party for many years.

Two years later the democrats were wiped out in the midterms.

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1 point

You smoothly worked philosophical theory into the conversation. Subtle.

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15 points

it would be nice if the democrats fucking tried.

They think they don’t have to, they just have to keep you scared enough of the GOP that you’ll vote for them out of terror. It’s how Biden won the first time, after all.

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4 points

And they’re right. I mean, Trump’s a waste of oxygen, so why should anyone vote for him?

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6 points

Democrats do not need to make us scared. The gop does it themselves.

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43 points

This is the choice that was forced onto us. The Democrats could have had a Primary and instead they chose this for us.

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15 points

There was a show primary but candidates were essentially stonewalled from participating and voters browbeaten for not supporting Biden, which is why only wackos like RFK Jr are the only other people who ran.

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9 points

Up until tonight, there really was little point. Biden already beat Trump, has the incumbent advantage, and has had a successful term. I’m still not convinced that replacing him suddenly this late is even remotely a good idea unlike a lot of people seem to be

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7 points

They had a primary, did everyone suddenly forget all the Palestine protesters that abstained from voting for Biden in the primary?

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Most countries Primaries don’t exist at all. Getting to choose who represents a given party is a luxury.

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tbh it’s mostly just a gimmick to excite voters, not just a luxury. The Party still basically picks who the nominee is.

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