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And what do we do with the Russians starting civil wars in Africa? Or Chinese neocolonialism?

Yes, we should unfuck the asylum process and speed it up. Also the one for legal migration. The problem though is that if Europe plays the humanitarian and tries to fix Africa, Europe’s detractors will keep fucking it up even more.

Another problem is this, “agree on fair ways of distributions”. What’s fair? Is it fair when the German chancellor stands up and encourages migration, while the standing agreements put all the burden on other countries? Is it fair for Hungary to say “we did not fuck Africa up, we can’t afford to have a part in fixing it either”?

All I’m saying is that I agree that this is a multifaceted problem, but people like this ship’s crew make it worse for everyone.

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but people like this ship’s crew make it worse for everyone.

How? Please tell me you don’t want to say not letting people die is making the situation worse.

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I’m not against saving people from drowning, I’m against doing this “rebel” shit and putting them to shore illegally. Get them out of the water, ask them which port of entry they would like to go, and take them there.

Continuing this is just going to give idiots in the EU legitimacy, and it will end up with machineguns and barbed wire.

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people like this ship’s crew make it worse for everyone.

Letting people die at sea just means being cruel. Nothing else. It doesn’t magically send some kind of signal not to cross the sea to would-be migrants. Despite “conservatives” constructing their own alternate realities, this is, in fact, a well-researched fact.

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Never have I said “let people die at sea”. I’m saying pick them up, and take them to any legal port of entry they want to go to.

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@CyberEgg @HK65
Considers himself humanitarian. Thinks, people who rescue other people from drowning “make it worse for everybody”.

oO

Maybe you should reconsider.

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I think people who rescue people from drowning and instead of taking them to a port of entry, facilitate illegal immigration, give ammunition to the far right in Europe, which is going to result in idiotic racist pricks getting elected, and it really getting worse.

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