Madison’s quote closely mirrors Adams’ for sure, noting the church just being another power structure used by the wealthy.
Franklin is one of the only founders I haven’t read much about, mostly because he seems too good to be true and there’s a lot of worship surrounding him. I feel like I could never get an honest look at him.
There’s plenty of bad things about Franklin. For one thing, he cheated on his wife all the time, often with women who were also married. And really didn’t care who knew about it either.