Welcome back for another episode of Boz To The Future, a podcast from Reality Labs. In today’s episode, our host, Meta CTO and Head of Reality Labs Andrew “Boz” Bosworth, is joined by our very own Reality Labs Research Chief Scientist Michael Abrash.

Together, Abrash and Bosworth cover a range of topics, from the incredible progress Reality Labs Research has made through a decade of exploring and prototyping novel ideas to the technologies it’s brought to Meta’s products in-market, like hand tracking, pancake lenses, and spatial audio. They take a look back at some of the biggest developments of the last 10 years—including Touch controllers and inside-out tracking—and look ahead to the next decade on the horizon. The most exciting as well as the most surprising development for Abrash has been the sudden rise and relevance of compelling smart glasses. The ability to pair always-available contextual AI with a first-person perspective on the world and a stylish form factor should equate to a digital assistant that genuinely understands your goals and needs and is thus able to proactively help you as you go about your day.

They discuss the difficult but exciting challenges that lie ahead in building the next generation of computing devices, including full AR glasses with an immersive display. There’s a need to work within compute, power, thermal, and weight constraints, all while pioneering and miniaturizing new technologies to fit in a socially acceptable form factor. As Mark Zuckerberg recently noted, you’ll learn more about our AR glasses prototype later this year.