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5 points

5 months ago

Why is Lemmy so rich in people hell-bent on interpreting comments in the worst possible light, then make assumptions about the author based on that interpretation of a single comment? Oh and then proceed to be rude, in one shape or form.

Do better, people. Don’t be jerks.

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mindbleach@sh.itjust.works

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7 points

5 months ago

Could the response be based on the things you wrote? No, surely it’s everyone else who’s wrong.

My guy. Your comment explicitly says “let’s move on” from mentioning that The Idiot is screaming the quiet part, not for the first time. Your dismissive minimization of this event is that he’s just rambling incoherently. About fascism. About the fascism he plans to do. After the failed coup d’etat, and the repeated efforts to prevent, ignore, or overturn the previous election. Just locker-room braggadocio, right?

Maybe - maybe! - people are still talking about it, after a whole seventy-two hours, because it’s FUCKING TERRIFYING.

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2 points

5 months ago

Not everyone is wrong. But it happens occasionally and then people pile on. I’m guessing it’s just people looking for an outburst.

My comment says “media and memes should stop milking it”. Which is the only thing that they are doing. There’s nothing to discuss. This isn’t news, we all already know he’s a fascist dictator. The only problem is that some people support it. You should’ve started being terrified long ago when he was acting like a dictator, not when he accidentally mumbled being one.

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mindbleach@sh.itjust.works

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4 points

5 months ago

Right, because I learned all this yesterday. I’m the one with a comment that’s downplaying how bad this is. You are explaining to me why a dozen people felt that brushing aside this latest horror deserved blunt objection.

Totally my fault for saying this known fascist “barely mentioned” the end of democracy, in what was surely just extemporaneous regurgitation of what his inner circle constantly floats. I shouldn’t have called people flipping the fuck out, over that actionable threat to the entire country, “milking it.” Glibly blaming “media” is a common dog-whistle and must be why people are “hell-bent on interpreting” shitheel beliefs, as surely as dismissing their plain-English reading of my own words as twisting them through dishonest motivation, by saying they’re “hell-bent” on that “worst possible light.” All made worse by complaining people “make assumptions” by responding directly to my stated beliefs.

I meant something else entirely and used all the wrong words.

My bad.

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1 point

5 months ago

I wasn’t downplaying anything, after everything discussed, you still insist that I somehow don’t care about what he said.

I would also not complain if people engaged in good faith and were trying to politely convince me that I’m somehow wrong. But instead it was just assumptions and insults. Yes, I’m absolutely not in the wrong for stating my reasonable, but perhaps controversial opinion. It’s the people who attack and be rude who are in the wrong.

But anyway, while we were arguing here media has already moved on to another thing, so all good here. Apparently, he said something like “criminals are criminals”.

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mindbleach@sh.itjust.works

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5 points

5 months ago

I am telling you what you explicitly wrote.

This is what those words mean.

People accurately paraphrasing the egregious parts, and telling you to stop saying that shit, is a common form of good-faith criticism. We’re not “assuming” anything. We read what you wrote. Whatever secrets you keep in your heart don’t fucking matter - we speak English, you wrote ‘he’s just blathering,’ we object. Learn something from the experience.

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2 points

5 months ago

Saying “shut the fuck up” (even in scrambled order), “this asshole” (from another user), and even “stop saying that shit” isn’t “good-faith” criticism. Good-faith criticism is “I disagree because <reasons>”. I said absolutely nothing egregious and offended nobody. If you think you see something egregious in what I said then you misinterpreted my words.
You said people aren’t making assumptions, but there’s a couple comments in this thread who said that I’m supporting Trump. Others, like you, insist that I’m downplaying it and don’t care that he’s a fascist, which I have neither said nor implied. There’s of course a couple reasonable responses, too.

Now, one last attempt to put the record straight. Yes, I still think he stumbled into saying it accidentally. By that I DON’T mean he isn’t thinking it or doesn’t mean to do it. I only mean that we should be focusing on more concrete terrible things that he has said and done, of which there are plenty. Media has run with this specific event for so long only because it’s easy to sensationalize due to the way they report it, it seems like he stated it clearly and deliberately. Because that’s what I thought when I was seeing all the news and thought “damn, did he just straight up said that? has he become that bold”. Then I watched the actual video and saw that he just kinda walked himself into blabbering it and played it off as a joke. If a person on the fence will see these the news, go check the actual video, see that it’s blown out of proportion they might ignore the future criticisms of Trump. And media caused that for a couple extra views.

Anyway, I don’t intend to continue this empty discussion. I’ll just leave you (general you) with an advice to not put words into people’s mouths, and not to insult/attack people you don’t know. We will all benefit from it. Cheers.

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