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Are all circles in physical reality actually cylinders, only some are very short?

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Aid or another fat contribution to the already brim full pockets of war profiteers?

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Fuck bottoming for Biden and Trump. If you vote Biden, you’re enabling genocide. Kind regards, rest of the world.

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Sorry, haven’t almost all our European industries relied heavily on government subsidies, privatization of previously public entities, protectionism and so on? China is a socialist country, of course the government is subsidizing production. The reality is that China is outcompeting capitalist Europe (now sacrificed by the US) on capitalist terms. This move seems like an abandonment of free market laissez faire thinking in favour of mercantilism/outright iron curtain, while blaming it on the other guy.

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Well, yeah, it’s complicated and all that, but still. For instance, did you know Huawei is a cooperative? I just learned.

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I think it’s hard to tell and would advise against bombastic blanket statements like this, especially on China. We’re talking about one billion people and the world’s largest economy, after all. Our ability to clearly analyze China is hindered by its own opaqueness, but one should not forget the thick layer of propaganda we in the West are served whenever we’re talking about one of the so-called strategic adversaries.

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There you go again making blanket statements, giving you a look of either being a little daft and unnuanced or some kind of propagandist. “Nothing good”, unless you count biggest lift of people from poverty in history. Imagine two people being born in the sixties in India and China respectively. Both are dirt poor back then. Today one will still be poor, still in a third world country, while the other drives EVs, get their power from worlds largest green energy infrastructure, has working public services, best train system, etc.

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And I say this as someone as far left as left goes.

This is much like beginning a comment with “I’m not racist, but”, with the inevitable horrible racism that follows. Your comment is such a gross simplification of history and dismissal of context, that it borders on the malign. For instance the number in your source says 15-55 million, not 55 million. The ideological broadside is very apparent. Facts not feelings, to paraphrase a broken clock.

  1. Yes, China had a terrible famine in the 60s, but far left people tend to consider it in context China’s historical famines, as well as the many millions dead to capitalist induced famine.
  2. Leftists tend to consider deaths and consequences of capitalist imperialism when discussing foreign and developing nations.
  3. Today India is listed as a country in “Serious” risk in the Global Hunger Index, while China is of course “Low”.

These are just three aspects of context, of many, which you could have chosen to inform your comment. In stead it is perpetuating a US-vs-Them cold war, black and white rhetoric, making the West out to be exceptionally good, while China is entirely bad. Smart people smell the lies included in such oversimplification a long way. You run fast and loose with your facts, presenting allegations of Uyghur genocide as fact, while you probably know how the UN will not call it that, after long running and thorough investigations, a lack of evidence, etc. On the other hand, we in Europe are very much facilitating the ongoing genocide in Palestine, of which there is ample coverage.

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Maybe, just maybe, it’s not a coincidence that we’re supporting Israel, but that we actually might be the bad guys other places as well? Just a thought, since your post is titled after the slogan of genocidal nazis and our role in the lead up to the Russian invasion https://youtu.be/LL4eNy4FCs8

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Who is justifying it? To be clear, I’m a pacifist and against all wars. I too believe in the self sovereignty of people. One can be against the Russian invasion, and for the peace treaty that was about to be signed spring 2022 before Boris Johnson came and put a stop to it. Diplomacy over bombs I say, but our leaders see it as economical to fund a war against Russia, so that Ukrainians can fight it instead of our guys. I think that’s inhumane and unwise.

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