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lancalot

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Don’t go straight to immutable Linux.

My first foray into Linux was through what you’d refer to as immutable Linux; shortly after the release of Fedora Kinoite. I’m literally the embodiment of the antithesis to your statement.

It is very new

This is factually true. So I can’t simply deny that. But being more precise is helpful:

and I don’t like the focus.

Could you be more elaborate 😜?

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Great response! Much appreciated!

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Interesting. Have you also tried openSUSE Aeon(/Kalpa)? Though I assume you’re a KDE user and thus waiting for Kalpa to become mature before a test ride.

Could you elaborate on what you didn’t like about Aurora and Bazzite; especially about how that experience made you more appreciative of openSUSE?

Thank you in advance!

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What distro do you use

I daily drive secureblue.

and why?

Long story short; I love me some security. Unfortunately, My device is far from ideal for running Qubes OS. From within the remaining options, secureblue comes out on top for me.

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Yup; at least to some extent.

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I don’t know why, but openSUSE has had difficulty garnering popularity overall (aside from Germany).

A possible explanation, which also ties in to Fedora, is how both are the open source variants to corporate distros; SEL and RHEL respectively.

Arch and Debian are more community-driven by comparison.

For Fedora specifically, people couldn’t regard it as anything but a testing bed distro; especially if you see how back2back they were with adopting new technologies like PulseAudio, systemd, Wayland, GTK 3/4, PipeWire etc. To be fair, openSUSE was the first to default to Btrfs and auto-snapshotting with Snapper*. Fedora was also facing competition from industry darling CentOS; similar code base, but a lot more stable.

Thankfully, since a couple of years now, Fedora has recognized that it’s not cool to expect your user base to be sadistic. And together with the (unfortunate) downfall of CentOS, Manjaro and Ubuntu - Fedora has amassed a very healthy user base. And with how quickly Bazzite is becoming the face of gaming Linux (at least until Valve releases SteamOS), I don’t think it has even peaked yet.

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Historically, (at least for hobbyists/enthusiasts) Fedora and openSUSE have been a lot less popular compared to Arch, Debian and their derivatives. While not necessarily representative, Boiling Steam’s chart -in which ProtonDB’s data is used- does indicate to this as well.

Just my 2 cents.

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I had something similar going on in Fedora Silverblue. I didn’t really want to fiddle with it at the moment, so I just uninstalled whatever I got from ProtonVPN and the update went smooth afterwards. I hope someone else can point you towards a better answer.

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It ain’t perfect. But it’s the best we got when it comes to a secure OS on x86.

The author is even quite explicit when they mentioned to use Fedora Silverblue for gaming.

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