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No I did not gloss over that. I’m not sure how you could miss my point that much.
I think my example is entirely relevant. The reason I sometimes condone murder is when I don’t find it morally wrong, so obviously that’s also what the discussion is about.
You’re whole argument about not being able to condone a criminal act without having to change the laws makes very little sense to me.
Back when slaves were legal it was illegal to kill a slave owner. I understand that and I think that’s how it needed to be. You can’t have laws that killing someone is legal.
On the other hand I don’t morally condemn the slaves that rose up and actually did kill their “owners”.
I absolutely can say something should be illegal but in certain cases I’m cool with it happening.
I challenge you to find a single person arguing in favor of making murder legal. I’ve never seen or heard anyone do that.
I think it can be needed sometimes throughout history when the inequality between rich and poor becomes too great, that doesn’t mean I think it should be legal…
You’re basically saying you’d prefer to still live in a country where slaves are legal, over anyone ever having being murdered?
The South didn’t just turn around one day and decide slavery should be removed… Violence and murder was a major factor in that and there are countless other examples.
I know those models and am all for them. I’m Scandinavian so I’m not at all for eye for an eye type of justice.
The original comment I was replying to said something along the lines of “these people don’t understand justice”.
I was just pointing out that justice is a feeling more than anything else. You can point out that restorative justice is a better way for society to go and it works better for most individuals too but if someone says that they don’t feel like justice has been served you can’t say they’re wrong.
They just have a different opinion on what justice is.
I agree 100%, but I was never discussing what should be legal or illegal… Obviously any murder should be illegal. I don’t think anyone would disagree with that.
That doesn’t change my opinion that sometimes murder is needed to affect change and sometimes it’s even the morally right thing to do…
You honestly thought I was advocating for making murder legal?