Shezzagrad
"Associated with jihadist terrorism " my friend im guessing you’re not the type to look further then whatever media company throws whatever slop at you. Further reading https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Street,_Pretoria_bombing https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/oklahoma-city-bombing
The west saw the Jews as the enemies(foreigners who’ve lived in Europe for so long yet discriminated against them so bad the term anti semitism is formed), then the Germans/Nazis (didn’t want a new empire outshining them), then comes the Soviets and now the arabs and chinese.
All of this to say terrorism is universal and those who link it to jihadis have a point they are trying to justify. In any western nation most of the terrorism is domestic and jihadi terrorisms biggest targets is other Muslims and those who defeated them were mostly Muslim including your bullshit western coalition.
Free reminder that Saudia Arabia is a good western ally BUT ALSO the literal exporter of “Islamist jihadist” as someone who knows the topic can tell you the real fear are sunni wahabism being spread all over the world by saudi arabia and other gulf nations for self interest.
Among which historians specifically? I’m unaware of any serious debate here other than propagandists using the name second Rome, third Rome, ceaser etc. sorry buddy Roman empire collapsed when the franks, Visigoths, ostrogoths and Huns toppled the west. Wanna know why it ended then? Byzantine had split long before into a separate entity to distance itself from Rome and when it collapsed it chugged along with it’s greek orthodox ideals
It’s crazy how they and the west propagandised for years about terrorism and Islamism when their biggest allies like use, Israel and Saudi Arabia are the biggest reasons the Muslim world is the way it is. Israel is a vile nation and while I believe the cycle of hatred needs to be breaked, if I was a Palestinian, I would want every single Zionist (not every Israeli) dead or gone
So you’re telling me Asif Rahman who was employed by the CIA Did the job of preventing an escalation is being jailed? More and more I feel Israels actions will cause it’s demise soon but also that Israel will be Americas demise. God I truly hope civil war rips America apart in Rome like fashion
Palestine was a place for Jews to live in peace and personally the whole religion war is a smokescreen. You look at the stats you look at the footage and historical texts and historic Palestine was a multi faith and cultural society recognition as important to many faiths. It’s not my place to say but even after all this I wholeheartedly accept Jews in Palestine BUT the Jewish supremcist apartheid state is all of the most evil aspects of European colonialism and nazi Germany/american manifest destiny into one shitty little state. Israel has done nothing for anti semitism and may be the thing that resets the clock back to post Roman conquest levels of Jewish hatred if things don’t change. I don’t want that, all humans are humans and no people are a monolith. I pray for a multi faith Palestine with no supremacy of any people (tho Jewish right to return should be revoked and Palestine right to return established as their actually refugees while vast amount of Jews coming to Israel to settle are dual citizens.
I have a book for you my friend, it’s called humankind. While these wars are making me lose hope again, this relative cutting age history book (cutting age as in new research used in book rather than decade old and often outdated research ) that argues and shows the beauty of our species. I need to read it again, because I’ll be honest I’m losing hope again in humanity Humankind: A Hopeful History https://g.co/kgs/BrbMWsC
I get you’re joking, tho personally, I find the whole nazi thing stupid personally (tho in Scotland you wouldn’t be calling people Nazis unless to be funny). Also as I learn more about history, I see as simplifying the fact Nazis werent the only bad guys. The only technical good guy with the allies was kind of America (at least initially) all the European ally nations (specially, UK, France, Belgium and Netherlands) were all evil nations that did “nazi like things for longer and then more brutally” Bad enough, Britain had “operation legacy” to essentially burn or destory all colonial documentations of crimes. Are Nazis the bad guys because they uniquely awful and despicable? Or is because they killed white Europeans and wanted to create a new empire that opposed the hegemonic power of UK and France. The whole “we did it for the Jews” I don’t buy, the same Europe that persecuted them for years and had been banned or in ghettos in most nations. Do you really think they’d have such a war over a people they despise so much?
“Unpopular opinion but do folks honestly not understand how those borders shifted? Mostly because a bunch of countries tried to murder the Jews” You can’t genuinely be this conceited. How about Israel’s “independence” which was a massive ethnic cleansing done by Jewish terrorists who were all non native from Europe and would avoid native Palestinan Jews because they found them “too weak” David Ben gurion the founder of Israeli was apart of it and was well aware what he was doing was colonisation. The stern gang and lehi group then became Israels army and government, with their teaching still very in place. https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/conflict-Palestine#%3A~%3Atext=The+main+terrorist+groups+were%2CFreedom+of+Israel)%20or%20LHI.)%20or%20LH
https://www.progressiveisrael.org/ben-gurions-notorious-quotes-their-polemical-uses-abuses/
It’s ironic how you use this projection about others getting their info from tiktok when come unsourced, arrogant and wrong, it’s impossible not to think you are brainwashed or an awful human being and uneducated. All of this is to say, Israel has a clear greater Israel plan even literally showing a map of Israel pre Oct 7 of them owning west bank and Gaza https://www.commondreams.org/news/netanyahu-map
So suprise suprise when Israeli leaders talk about “claiming greater Israel” we gotta fight back and dismantle that nation. You and you’re people oppressed the Jews for 2 thousand years, to the middle east in 1930s the Jews were colonisers no different to the Brits acting with imperialist intentions with Israel capitalising on the holocaust to form some special protected minority status no other people on earth have even tho the Jews are ABSOLUTELY not the most victimised people in the planet or even they era of history. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20241120-smotrich-has-confirmed-that-the-quest-for-greater-israel-is-real/ https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-paper-op-ed-claims-south-lebanon-northern-israel?amp
I hope things will change but do they? Did imperialism end? Did empires end? Did colonization really end? Slavery? No, it just changed forms, a shackle in new colours. Even if the west was the fall tomorrow the middle east became somehow the new dominant region, with the trauma they faced, would they be any better (hypothetically) I worry for our species as I feel like we’re bomb ourselves before we reach true mastery of this earth or use that mastery to enforce an even wider and more ruthless class system