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I’m not sure if this is your first conversation on the topic but the debate is almost entirely on renewables vs nuclear.

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You can’t really guarantee anything. What we do is play the odds. And the odds are pretty good.

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Lol. Relax. Seriously, take a few deep breaths and maybe turn off your device for an hour.

Nobody cares about what you wrote. It’s not even the topic of conversation.

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Many people seem to think that’s the idea. I don’t know about you, but when you frame the discussion as solar vs nuclear, that is what you are suggesting.

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Everyone is or at least tries to portray they are. Your article could be written for almost any country in the world.

But that doesn’t mean a country can be run on solar alone.

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Less than Spain. There is a winter. Geography and suitable areas less common. Distribution network made for power plants.

Nuclear plants can be a better cost effective fit.

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  1. why did you specify in the west :)? You know why you did that, because nuclear plants do get built in 5 years elsewhere.

  2. emm, yes very much so. Like you said, they’re are even a few suppliers who can do that. They just need enough orders for it to make sense.

  3. you should check that data again. Renewables are great, but some countries have better access than others. Right now Germany is building gas plants and burning coal and there is no end in sight for that.

  4. I might check that file later thanks, but what I’m taking about is just plain physics. You can not store enough energy today to make a big difference at any cost. And the cost is really high and can not be close to what a power plant can generate on the fly. It’s just can’t. Especially if you are taking lithium batteries.

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Some countries have sun, some don’t. They might need nuclear. That is the reality.

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That’s not precise. A nuclear plant can be built in like 5 years. And the supply chain is not the issue when you have lots of orders. But there are not many. It’s also not precise to say you can build huge amounts of renewables instead. Probably Spain doesn’t need nuclear, since it’s got plenty of sun. On the other hand many countries don’t have areas that have enough sun and consistent wind.

Id also say that the part you said that cost of renewables combined with storage would be a fraction of the cost, that is completely false.

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