GEICO, the second-largest vehicle insurance underwriter in the US, has decided it will no longer cover Tesla Cybertrucks. The company is terminating current Cybertruck policies and says the truck “doesn’t meet our underwriting guidelines.”

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Lol

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Lmao, even

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118 points

With some rofl on the side.

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43 points

For Elon this means Relying On Father’s Luxuries

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Ijbol?

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Elon bad, haha

Tomorrow I post Elon bad, ok?

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13 points

No, truck bad. More read article.

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God, I hope other places follow. I work in insurance and not only is everything about the cybertruck an absolute fucking nightmare to source, let alone find a shop for, every single goddamn owner is like the most insufferable chod. That goes for women too. Tesla drivers could already be a problem, but the truck owners are like regular Tesla owners gone feral.

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I hope other places follow

Are they actually allowed to sell these pieces of shit elsewhere?

Also is anyone else stupid enough to buy one?

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they started taking orders from presales in Canada and they went through the entire list, I’m not sure if any have been delivered here yet though

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Presumably, “other places” refers to other insurance companies. IOW, GEICO is (allegedly) denying them coverage. OP is hoping that Allstate, Progressive, etc will also deny coverage.

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-15 points

People knowingly buy stupid vehicles. I’m one of them. It’s expensive to drive, big, has expensive insurance and only seats two but I love it.

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13 points

I didn’t realise they only had two seats!

Is that one for each of your brain cells? 😉

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11 points

People shouldnt knowingly buy dangerous vehicles.

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Same, but I like the small ones personally

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9 points

chod

Now there’s an insult I haven’t heard in a while.

Take my upvote!

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3 points

State farm was the first to drop them

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2 points

Tesla drivers have single-handedly done more PR for BMW drivers than BMW ever could have.

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Pretty sure they were one of the last major companies that would…

Even if warranty pays for repairs to it, if it damages anything else the insurance still has to pay.

The article mentions multiple examples of them just randomly shutting down during operation. That’s already bad. But this is going to be it’s first winter, it’s not surprising insurers don’t want to deal with it. They deal with large numbers, it’s not a question of “if” like an individual owner, its “when” for the insurer

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50 points

Class action lawsuits are gonna be a mother fucker

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Class action lawsuits are gonna be a mother fucker

Part of the purchase agreement of a Tesla agreeing to binding arbitration. This means no class action suit. You can opt out of this within the first 30 days, but you have to send a letter requesting it.

How many Tesla owners do you think do that?

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52 points

That assumes the court finds that enforceable. Usually they do, but a few times recently, they’ve said it’s not.

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23 points

i don’t own a tesla, so if their cars injure me I can sue them*

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Steam recently removed their arbitration clause, largely because paying for a thousand arbitration cases is worse than dealing with a class action.

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4 points

Wow, I never thought I’d find an actual good argument for keeping independent car dealers as middlemen instead of allowing first-party sales, but here we are.

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This didn’t work for valve so I can see it also going poorly for Tesla.

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A vehicle shutting down in the middle of the freeway can easily cause multiple accidents.

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The go pedal and the steering wheel are equivalent to a keyboard/mouse and are not physically connected to anything. If the car shuts off, the wheels go where they feel like with absolutely no driver control.

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Never thought of they how would you brake if the car shutoff.

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They do when it shuts down while driving and careens into another vehicle.

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More importantly, Anderson has eight vehicles. GEICO is only choosing to terminate the insurance coverage from Cybertruck and is actively pursuing renewal of his vehicle coverage for the rest. This leaves no doubt that GEICO’s issue is directly related to the Tesla Cybertruck and not to Anderson or other factors.

Why would someone own 8 vehicles?

Robert added, “It makes no sense, as there are other, riskier cars out there. Let me know if you recommend any insurer for the truck. I have eight cars with an amazing record. I will be canceling my entire Geico policy!! Bye-bye!”

I can’t think of a vehicle that is more likely to be a risk to others than the Cybertruck. I’m sure insurance adjusters see how people use Tesla FSD in spite of its shortcomings. The truck is heavy as hell and breaks in all sorts of ways others vehicles don’t.

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Also, there have been no independent crash tests done so no insurance company can accurately assess the risk, so this is wholly unsurprising.

Tesla have allegedly done their own crash tests, but they still have not released the data. It’s kinda what you’d expect when a government-regulation-hating techbro designs a “I got mine fuck you” vehicle.

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If Geico, and presumably soon others, are angering the chuds by refusing to insure this, independent crash tests definitely occurred and they were not favorable.

You don’t have to be an obnoxious YouTuber to crash a car.

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If Geico, and presumably soon others, are angering the chuds by refusing to insure this, independent crash tests definitely occurred and they were not favorable.

When I said no independent crash tests had been performed, I was specifically referring to the IIHS since they’re the only ones who opinion really matters and they’ve stated they have not tested any Cybertruck. But yes, regardless of whether Tesla’s internal crash tests were performed by their staff or some other testing lab, the fact that they’re sitting on the results clearly indicates that they know just how poorly the crumplezone-less sharp-edged quality-uncontrolled ketaminemobiles fare.

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Ahhh, that’s a reason that makes sense. Much better than the article itself. Thanks.

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To be clear, I don’t know if that’s why GEICO is cancelling policies on Cybertrucks, but I’d bet heavily it’s a contributing factor. It could be that they decided the risk was worth it, until the trucks actually started coming out and the sheer number of recalls due to shitty manufacturing was just too much.

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I thought that was the sort of thing that the government mandated companies had to do in a controlled and transparent fashion. I wouldn’t have thought that the NTSB would allow a vehicle to be registered without a thoroughly vetted crash testing procedure.

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Apparently “rare” or “limited-release” vehicles don’t get tested. Which means the Cybertruck will probably never get tested 😂

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The cyber truck has no crumble zones. I’d like to see Tesla’s tests.

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Cody Johnston did a vid about the Cybertruck on his most recent episode of Some More News. He starts talking about the crash test Tesla did (with video) around the 8:45 mark.

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Why would someone own 8 vehicles?

He might be too poor to be able to afford more than that.

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3 points

Maybe it’s 1 cybetruck and 7 Dodge Caravans saved from the crusher

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41 points

Why would someone own 8 vehicles?

Why does anyone have anything? If they can afford to collect the things they are interested in, they will have many of those kinds of things.

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What if they’re interested in naked pictures of children?

I use an extreme example to point out that “the market will provide” is a terrible argument for the existence of anything.

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The gulf of difference kind of undercuts your point in this case. One is undoubtedly immoral and illegal. And it doesn’t change that part of the answer why somebody would have either is because they want that, which says nothing about it being a good thing.

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Why would someone own 8 vehicles?

Car collectors exist, and I have the impression quite a few of them are among the Cybertruck’s early adopters.

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Honestly, a car collector is probably the best kind of person to have one I’d bet, given that they now exist out there. They don’t seem terribly safe for pedestrians and others to have around, so it they’re going to be out there in individuals hands, them being kept parked in some guys garage as some weird curiosity vehicle of the 2020s is probably better than being driven around on the daily as a pointy oversized commute vehicle

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Why would someone own 8 vehicles?

Because he’s a car enthusiast with a problem.

(Source: I own six.)

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Kinda funny how it sneaks up on you when you get the space. I have 7 vehicles split between my wife and I. Most of them were bought at bottom of the market. People act like I must be wealthy as they drive a new suv worth $20 more than my fleet. I could replace the whole spread for like $30k. I’ll add the qualifier that 2 are motorcycles and I’m totally, definitely, working on selling my prior daily. But $3k isn’t exactly life-changing. I imagine this is a fuckcars zone but it’s a hobby for people. Every hobby is destructive. It’s not like car enthusiasts are driving multiple cars at a time, so the fuel consumption over time is normal. And the thirstier cars tend to be broken more often!

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I imagine this is a fuckcars zone but it’s a hobby for people.

More than you know: even I use a bicycle as my daily-“driver,” LOL!

Of the six cars I have, only one isn’t an old, unreliable project car and/or two-seater. Even then, I only have that because my parents essentially forced it upon me. (They have some kind of silly hang-up about having a cargo bike be my sole means of transporting the kids, other than public transit.)

Perhaps ironically, good urbanism is what gives me the freedom to treat cars as a hobby instead of a necessity, and I firmly believe that’s the way it ought to be. It’s a lot like how people can be into horses while also still understanding that it’s a dumb idea to commute to work on horseback.

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The H1 was basically a civilian tank. The H3 on the other hand was a reskinned Chevy TrailBlazer and fell apart just as easily as one.

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6 points

I think they’re talking about the new Hummer EV.

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How is cybertruck more risky to others that your average truck?

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Heavier (6,898 pounds compared to 5,540 for the F-150), lithium fire risk, inattentive drivers using the FSD

This is all on top of how dangerous American trucks have become to others

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Don’t forget the cybertruck body panels are basically dull knives due to being flat sheets instead of curves where they are joined.

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Just look at the front “bumper”. It’s triangular, and made of metal. If it hits a pedestrian, unlike other cars that try to bump and deflect the pedestrian up onto the hood, the Cybertruck will cut the pedestrian in half with that angle. Also, because it’s metal, there is NO give. That could even be dangerous to other cars, let alone pedestrians and cyclists.

That’s just one aspect, though. You got 3 others from another commenter, making the Cybertruck tonight’s biggest loser.

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I would assume he’s either a car collector or he owns a small fleet of work vehicles for his small business, (like a plumbing business or such).

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Why would someone own 8 vehicles?

My uncle was like that - he was a contractor and realtor. He had several work trucks, each for a specific purpose, plus one general purpose, and half of them had snowplows of various sizes. Most of them had something wrong with them that didn’t interfere with their specific purpose, but would have been a pain to deal with daily. Only new one was a minivan for driving clients to sites… Then he bought a house closer to town that had a flatbed truck left on it…

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No word from the insurance company itself? This whole article seems to be based on a single tweet by a cybertruck owner. For all we know his might be modded in a way that they dropped the insurance on it.

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More specifically, the only source the article even gives is a link to a reddit post with a screenshot of the tweet, of which doesn’t have a direct link to the tweet. This is half assed journalism at best, considering they even quoted the original screenshot wrong.

Edit: lol they couldn’t even get the person’s name straight. It changed from Robert Stevenson to Anderson after the email portion. Why’s this article even here?

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Why’s this article even here?

Anything Elon bad = upvotes

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If you manage to find an article with both Elon bad themes and AI bad themes in the same story Lemmings would upvote it up into the atmosphere. You’d be on top of All for like a day!

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To top it all off the email/text had information redacted not by blurring it with paint, but by using characters in the same font with the same line breaks.

I mean seriously, who does that? Only time I’ve ever busted out inspector to modify a website or tweet or email is to elaborately troll someone with a sceenshot.

Did they really use inspector to redact info out an legit document about an allegedly widespread thing that no one else can produce, or did they draft the whole thing, used strings of ‘x’ to mark where to blur, and forget to blur? /shrug

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This isn’t new. They’ve dropped cybertrucks before, and they’re not the only company to drop/straight up refuse to take them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CyberStuck/comments/1ejtwkt/insurance_wont_cover_my_cybertruck_so_i_cant/

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Everyone in here like yay truck bad, I don’t give a fuck about Teslas what’s fucked is goddamn insurance companies can just arbitraryly drop your coverage for no fault of your own. It should be illegal. Like sorry but you agreed to cover this, with all its flaws and took my money for years.

I really wish car/home/health insurance were just federalized. These companies are the oldest con perpetrated on the general public tbh.

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It’s in the article, they didn’t drop him during the coverage period they declined to renew.

It’s perfectly fair, if you can decline to review and insure with someone else when the 6 month term is up, so can they.

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Yep, this is 'merica and a bunch of people are already driving this destruction derby without insurance. Do we really want to add a bunch of Cybertrucks to that terrifying demographic?

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Yes the circle jerk on this has gone way too far.

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This whole article seems to be based on a single tweet

Ah yes, news these days…

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